Hi everyone. I'm Maggie McGrath, senior editor at Forbes. Flight delays are expected to mount this week as air traffic controllers miss their first paycheck because of the shutdown.

Joining us now to talk about the situation is my colleague Suzanne Rowan Kellahar. She is a staff writer

who covers travel, transportation, and all the most essential information that we need right

now. Suzanne, thank you so much for joining us.

It's good to be here.

So you have this story that published yesterday that talks about air traffic controllers will

miss their first full paycheck Tuesday.

That's today, October 28th, due to the government shutdown.

I have so many questions, but starting with, the government has been shut down for a number

of weeks.

How was it that air traffic controllers were paid up until this point?

So they get paid every two weeks and two weeks ago on the 14th, they got a partial paycheck

for work that was done before the shutdown started. So there was a lag. They got paid on the 14th

for everything worked before October 1st. This is the first

paycheck that they're seeing a zero paycheck. And what are we seeing at airports? You reported on

delays at certain airports around the country. Can you take us through some of the most major

airports and what we know about flight delays right now?

So what's happened? Okay, so just sort of if we back up and we kind of give a little grace to air traffic controllers,

even before the shutdown, I think we've discussed this, there's been a shortage of air traffic controllers.

They have been working 10 hour days, six days a week, with four days off every month.

And that was before the shutdown, and now they're not getting paid.

So I've been talking to quite a few air traffic controllers. They are stretched thin.

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