Why Trump Ignored Musk's Drug Spiral: Prof G

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

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🗓️ 8 June 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Joanna Coles welcomes Scott Galloway—the irreverent marketing professor, tech provocateur, and self-declared “really f***ing rich” man—to understand into the dark ballet between DonaldTrump and Elon Musk. Galloway calls Musk to a “rabid addict with a checkbook,” and unpacks how Tesla’s collapsing brand is a case study in boardroom paralysis, loyalty bought with billions, and a CEO in free fall. He then turns his fire on Brand America, the Democrats’ allergy to confrontation, and why the resistance feels like a “rebel force without Luke Skywalker.” It’s a high-octane, unfiltered diagnosis of power, cowardice, and the price of silence.

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0:00.0	Fancy a fever tree and vodka.
0:03.8	Yes, vodka, not gin, because this is fever tree Mexican lime soda.
0:10.0	Yes, soda, not tonic.
0:13.0	With Mexican lime and Japanese yuzu for a zesty, refreshing lime soda that's just sweet enough.
0:19.6	Delicious with vodka or on its own. Fever tree, Mexican lime soda that's just sweet enough. Delicious with vodka or on its own.
0:23.1	Fever tree Mexican lime soda.
0:25.5	Mix with the best.
0:27.7	Mmm, now that hits the spot.
0:35.8	I'm Joanna Coles, the chief content officer of The Daily Beast, and you are probably doing your dishes as I speak to the Daily Beast podcast. You may be dancing, you may be singing, you may be putting your daughter to sleep, but you're very welcome to stay and listen to today's guest who we love. It's Scott Galloway, the brilliant marketing professor at NYU Stern School of Business.
0:59.0	He's the co-host with the brilliant Kara Swisher of the Pivot podcast.
1:03.1	He's also got a podcast with Anthony Scaramucci about the future of young men.
1:07.6	He's a crazy lateral thinker, and I love talking to him. So let's get into it.
1:13.8	Enjoy. Great. Okay, let's get into it. We have Scott Galloway, the guru of marketing and, frankly,
1:22.0	an old friend. Scott, one of the things that I'm fascinated by is how almost anybody that works for Donald Trump
1:29.8	comes away scarred by it. Last week, we saw him wave off Elon with a key. There was a couple of
1:38.2	days of silence and then suddenly Elon bounced onto Twitter with endless criticisms of the big, beautiful bill.
1:46.7	Where do you see this relationship between the two of them going?
1:50.4	You know, it's difficult to predict.
1:51.9	It's difficult to predict the actions of a drug addict.
1:56.5	We as Democrats like to think that we're above everything and are worried we're not going to be
2:00.9	invited back to some kind of cool bridge tournament or the White House Correspondence Dinner,
2:05.3	so we don't call a spade.
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