Why Musk Just Made Trump Really Paranoid about JD

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

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🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Joanna Coles returns to dissect the latest turn in the Trump–Elon Musk war—and who better to decode the thoughts in Donald Trump's head than Michael Wolff, Trump's biographer. Wolff explains how the feud puts JD Vance's future in question because Vance's "only hardcore support" is from within the tech community. Wolff reminds us that Trump's Epstein connection still hangs over Trump like a sword Damocles. And Wolff shares that within the White House, people are saying "Thank God for LA" and the mass protests against ICE agents, which have stolen the American people's attention.

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0:00.0	Fancy a fever tree and vodka.
0:03.8	Yes, vodka, not gin, because this is fever tree Mexican lime soda.
0:10.0	Yes, soda, not tonic.
0:13.0	With Mexican lime and Japanese yuzu for a zesty, refreshing lime soda that's just sweet enough.
0:19.6	Delicious with vodka or on its own. Fever tree, Mexican lime soda that's just sweet enough. Delicious with vodka or on its own. Fever tree Mexican
0:24.1	lime soda mix with the best. Mmm, now that hits the spot. I'm Joanna Cole's chief content officer The Daily Beast, and this is the Daily Beast
0:40.8	podcast. Thank you again for your thousands of comments. We are trying to plow through them
0:46.1	all. It's very, very helpful to know what you think. And there is so much intelligent commentary
0:50.9	around this extraordinarily historic moment in America. Today's guest is in the
0:57.2	Hamptons. I'm in London and the National Guard are in Los Angeles. What the hell is going on? We have no
1:03.8	time to waste. We're talking, of course, to the man who lives inside Donald Trump's head, the best-selling author Michael Wolf,
1:12.0	who's written four books about Donald Trump.
1:14.7	He's spent the weekend talking to people in the White House.
1:18.1	Let's get into it.
1:20.7	Michael, I've got withdrawal symptoms from having not spoken to you for 48 hours and the world seems to have changed.
1:32.9	You're in the Hamptons, I'm in London, the National Guard is in L.A.
1:38.1	Again, please explain to us what's going on.
1:41.2	I feel like last time we talked, we were on the edge of a cliffhanger.
1:46.3	And we've come back for you to explain the episode to us, but it hasn't gone where I was
1:51.8	expecting. And I know you've been posting over the weekend on Michael Wolf, NYC on Instagram,
1:58.1	but I want you to bring listeners and viewers of this podcast up to date with
2:02.4	what the hell is going on between Trump and Musk and America.
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