Why Scandals No Longer Matter | Roundtable

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🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Mike Warren is joined by Megan McArdle, Sarah Isgur, and Jonah Goldberg to discuss the end of the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, what we’ve learned from the latest Epstein files drop, and the debate over postliberalism currently raging in the conservative movement. The Agenda:—Who won the shutdown?—Donald Trump’s approval rating—The latest Epstein files—“The dog that hasn’t barked”—Do scandals matter?—The postliberal divide—Why you don't want a factory job—Not Worth Your Time: The penny? Show Notes:—Take our listener survey!—Jonah’s G-File on postliberalism The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of our articles, members-only newsletters, and bonus podcast episodes—⁠click here⁠. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:29.2	sanity and understanding to our readers. And I can't wait for you to read it. Cheers. Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Mike Warren. On this week's roundtable, we'll discuss the end of the longest government shutdown in history. What will be the political ramifications for both Democrats and Donald Trump?
1:36.3	We'll also discuss the latest iteration of the Jeffrey Epstein saga. New emails are out from Congress.
1:42.2	Will there be more documents coming out next week? And why is Donald Trump trying to stop that from happening? We'll also discuss the internal debate going on in conservative egghead circles about
1:48.7	post-liberalism and its role in the broader conservative movement.
1:53.6	And finally, a little not worth your time.
1:56.2	I'm joined today by my dispatch colleagues, Jonah Goldberg and Sarah Isger, as well as Megan McArdle of the Washington Post.
2:02.7	Let's dive right in. All right. Well, our long national nightmare is over. The government
2:08.7	shutdown. The longest in American history is over. This is my favorite time, by the way,
2:15.6	to have a discussion about a government shutdown after the
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