Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Dispatch Senior Editor Mike Warren. My guest today is Mike

Cosper. He is a senior contributor at Christianity Today. He's the co-host of their podcast,

The Bulletin, a Roundtable podcast at Christianity Today. He was also the host of two other podcasts,

Devil and the Deep Blue Sea and the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill.

I talked to Mike today about all sorts of things regarding young conservative Christianity,

Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson.

And we talked about Mike's Monday essay for The Dispatch, The Great Unbundling of Humanity.

Mike Kossper, thank you so much for joining me on The Dispatch podcast.

I want to start by discussing your Monday essay for us at the dispatch, the headline of which

is the great unbundling of humanity.

And it's a terrific essay, I think, for contextualizing and understanding where we are with

the sense of kind of mass politically motivated violence, maybe where it comes from.

I'm just going to sort of very briefly paraphrase the idea that jumped out at me the most in reading this

essays, this idea that the identities that we had as humans until sort of very recently

in human history were sort of unquestioned and maybe even sort of un,

unremarked upon by us. We never thought about who we were in the world. You, you know,

you put this idea from the philosopher Charles Taylor, the questions like, am I a Christian or a

Buddhist? What do I want to be when I grow up?

Where will I live?

Those were questions that anybody was asking.

Of course, those are questions that those of us in America and the Western world ask all the time.

Our parents are asking us.

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