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The Dispatch Podcast

Will AI Destroy Humanity? | Interview: Andy Mills

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.6 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

Andy Mills, host of The Last Invention podcast, joins Dispatch CTO Steve Hayes to discuss the artificial intelligence revolution, the competing visions of utopia among the tech bros, and where AI will take us next. The Agenda:—The great conspiracy theory of our time—Understanding AI, AGI, and ASI—Alan Turing and the birth of AI—The Cold War’s influence on AI—Race against China—Where is the bipartisan policy? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:07.1

Thank you, Steve. It's a pleasure new podcast series called The Last Invention. Andy, welcome.

1:12.2

Thank you, Steve. It's a pleasure to talk to you, a big fan of you and the work you guys are doing at the dispatch.

1:17.9

Well, likewise, and I'm very interested in letting our listeners know a little bit more about Longview.

1:23.9

We'll get to that at the end, but I want to start at the beginning.

1:33.2

What is this series about and why did you call it the last invention?

1:42.1

Well, what started off as a curiosity about a debate happening inside of the world of artificial intelligence grew over months into this very fascinating

1:47.6

backstory to this moment that we're living through right now, where I know that politics

1:54.0

is interesting, and I know that it feels as if the state of the world is in many ways,

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