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The New Abnormal

Elon Was Right: Trump is Compromised and Knows It

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Joanna Coles is joined by Anthony Scaramucci, the infamously short-lived Trump first term White House communications director and longtime Trump confidant-turned-critic. The Mooch brings a blisteringly informed look into what happens to those, like Elon Musk, who get too close to Donald Trump—and why Musk is the latest casualty. Scaramucci explains why Ro Khanna is the only Democrat with the foresight to try and win Musk back, how Potomac fever has infected Silicon Valley, and why Trump's orbit inevitably burns anyone drawn into it. He reveals how Trump really fired him and why Howard Lutnick may be the next domino to fall. Plus, Scaramucci argues that a Musk-backed centrist third party won't be able to win the presidency—it could break the political duopoly for good.

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0:00.0

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0:14.3

Finish with a splash of sunshine and some good friends and enjoy.

0:21.0

Mmm, maybe you don't need the sunshine.

0:24.6

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0:26.7

Mix with the best.

0:28.4

Please enjoy responsibly.

0:35.8

I'm Joanna Coles.

0:37.1

This is the Daily Beast podcast, and today we're going to be talking to someone

0:40.5

else who worked for Donald Trump in the White House. He only lasted 10 days. That's Anthony Scaramucci.

0:46.6

He was on the podcast two weeks ago. He solicited thousands of comments from you. Some of you agreeing

0:52.0

with him. Some of you saying, why on earth did we have him on?

0:55.0

We have him on because he has great opinions. He's been up close to Donald Trump and he's seen what

1:00.4

it's like and he knows what it's like to be fired by Trump and also to leave the fulcrum of global

1:06.5

power and whether or not that does leave you with PTSD. So let's get into it.

1:14.3

Well, thank you for bringing me back, Joanne. Well, I'm very pleased to have you back. And one of

1:20.6

the things, I mean, many things you said on our last podcast with me, but in particular was the

1:26.7

foolishness of the Democrats to let Elon Musk go.

1:31.8

Is there a moment where the Democrats could now invite him back?

1:36.4

Well, certainly, there's certainly a moment. I mean, it would require good leadership.

1:40.8

Roe Kana understands this. Roe has already suggested this. I'm sure he's going to try to

1:44.9

reach out to Elon. Roe is the congressman. Yes, Roe is the congressman from Silicon Valley. He actually

1:50.4

controls that district. And he's a very bright guy. He's been around a long time and he's got maturity

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