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I know we didn't cross pass. You asked if we were up and we said we were up and then you never

consummated the thing. So now we all have to fuck. Oh, they didn't tell you that's how we do all the

episodes? They lock the doors. Now we go. So you guys have a podcast, Dear Shandy. You talk about dating relationships. I mean, why do we have to do this? Why? If you do what we do, what do we need to do this for? What is the meeting of the minds? What's the meeting? What are we going to do? Yeah, what are we going to talk about? I guess it comes out of who was doing it first. What year did you guys start? Before you. So we went there. What's the nature of the podcast? How did it start? You know, I know you were on The Bachelor and Andy, what did you do before? I was just doing my business. I was just a businessman.

Okay.

That's a secret.

That sounds like a grift.

Yeah, yeah.

It was business.

You know, business here. What pyramid scheme did you have?

Yeah, yeah, it was a couple of things, MLMs.

But no, I met this beautiful woman, and we dated for a few years.

Yes, many years. Actually, we got married like a year after. We got married really fast, actually. I proposed to her five months after I met her. Five months. Interesting story. I meant to propose three months after I met her. We were in Italy and I had a ring in my pocket that I brought from New York. And I was in bed with her.

I was like, I'm going to do it now.

I don't care.

You know, all the times I tried to get it romantic, like at the top of a castle outside, it was like raining, and there was too many tourists. I was like, I'm doing it right here in bed. And I went into my pocket, and I was, I was like, I can't get the thing out. like it was stuck in the bottom of my gene pocket and I was I just think it out so I was like I I was like, I'm not going to do it. It was taking too long. So I proposed a couple months later. Has you had discussed engagement? No. No. You wanted to surprise me. Wow. What are you doing in Italy three months in? She was singing. She was opera singer. And you were just like, I'm coming. I'm going to, what's this business that you do that afford you to go to Italy three months with some random

operas.

Fun fact. comment, I'm going to, what's this business that you do that affords you to go to Italy three months with some random operas. So you understand, fun fact, his business or what he does outside of the podcast is top secret information. We never divulge on our podcast. You never divulge. So our shandies of nearly six years still don't know what Andy does. Don't you think that's an issue for a dating podcast or you're supposedly the honest one

who gives it to people straight and you're not talking about money at all?

That's right.

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