Why Elon Threw The Epstein Bomb at Trump

The New Abnormal

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🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Joanna Coles calls an emergency podcast for the biggest fall-out in political history: Donald Trump and Elon Musk. And it's the perfect guest to explain EVERYTHING: Michael Wolff, the Trump biographer—who already predicted what would happen. He unpacks a "nuclear" break-up and why Musk has used the weapon Trump fears most: Jeffrey Epstein. Wolff reveals his own extraordinary moment of interviewing Trump and what happened when he raised the pedophile financier. He talks about the predator and the president's long friendship. And he explains why Musk is now Trump's perfect enemy—bigger than Harvard and of course the Democrats.

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0:00.0	Well, this is an extraordinary day in politics. We've got the richest man in the world, Elon Musk,
0:08.3	attacking the most powerful man in the world, Donald Trump, and now just firing salvos at each other.
0:15.3	Elon Musk has now introduced the theme of Jeffrey Epstein. He said, mark your calendars, basically saying there will be
0:23.2	blood. Who better to talk to about this than the man who foresaw this meltdown coming?
0:29.9	It's Michael Wolfe. He's back for an emergency Daily Beast podcast.
0:36.1	Michael. When we last spoke less than 24 hours ago, we were waiting for Donald Trump to
0:44.4	respond to Elon Musk's criticism of the big, beautiful bill.
0:49.5	Now we seem to be into a full-on WWE fight.
0:57.3	Explain what's going on.
0:59.7	You know, well, as we discussed yesterday,
1:02.8	everybody comes a cropper with Donald Trump.
1:06.3	Donald Trump is going to screw you
1:08.3	and you're going to be screwed.
1:10.5	So there has never been someone in a position to try to screw Donald Trump back.
1:17.6	And so we have a new paradigm.
1:20.6	The richest man in the world and the most powerful man in the world locked in a blood feud. And who's going to win? It could go either way.
1:31.3	It has escalated into into nuclear territory within the last, what, 30 minutes.
1:40.0	Right. And as we're talking, Elon Musk has just fired back at Donald Trump, who accused him of
1:46.4	missing the glamour of the White House. I mean, you made a very good point in the podcast we
1:51.3	dropped today, actually, earlier, saying no one leaves the White House voluntarily. Donald Trump
1:56.6	then today, possibly having heard you, makes the point that Elon already misses the glamour of
2:03.9	the White House. This is what happens when people leave the White House. There was carefully
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