I had some conversation with friends who were like actually like Joe Rogan actually like

you gotta get him a shot and I'm like I'm not gonna give Joe Rogan a shot like like he's the guy

who shows up in my news feed is like saying all these terrible things and yet you're right like it

for the people who understand him it does create this kind of cultish like Joe Rogan speaks truth

and no one else does and that's a part of a broader you know we're renegotiating our relationship with

media institutions governmental institutions all kinds of institutions that are the authority

and and and that skepticism that that mainstream media sort of push back on all sides really

is fertile ground for an independent feeling individual in his random room smoking weed

to be like actually I'm speaking truth that the mainstream media won't tell you about COVID vaccines.

I'm John Favreau welcome to offline.

Hey everyone my guest this week is filmmaker and video journalist Johnny Harris.

A friend Max Fisher is still out sick but don't worry he'll be back soon so this week we're

gonna dive straight into my interview with our guest. Johnny Harris is the former host of

Vox's border series and current New York Times contributor and YouTuber. Johnny's known for his

trademark high production video investigations where he debunks conspiracy theories,

dissect global political conflicts and tackles tricky questions so it's one of those questions

that I invited Johnny on to talk about today which is how did Joe Rogan end up hosting the most

popular podcast in the world. Johnny published a video a couple weeks ago that set out to answer

that question he watched hundreds of hours of the Joe Rogan experience from his first show in 2009

to present day and painted a picture not just of Rogan's shortcomings but also his appeal.

We talked about how Rogan's fame rests in his contrarianism why Johnny wouldn't call him a

right-winger and how Joe Rogan illustrates the way every journalist wrestles with the

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