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Offline with Jon Favreau

Jon Stewart, Donald Trump, and How Comedy Changed Politics

Offline with Jon Favreau

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Jesse David Fox, senior editor at Vulture and author of the forthcoming “Comedy Book,” joins Offline to break down how the internet changed comedy and how comedy changed politics. Jesse and Jon trace how the erosion of broadcast journalism under Reagan created a trust vacuum in America that comedians inadvertently filled. Jesse explains why this trust is misplaced, and the implications for entertainment, political correctness, and authoritarian leaders like Donald Trump. Then the two discuss how the internet has made us pickier about humor, why Elon needed to buy Twitter to feel funny, and why a comic’s success is no longer measured in laughs.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Trump makes people feel bad very often.

0:03.1

George Bush made people feel bad, but like not on an hourly basis.

0:06.7

Not in your face every five seconds because of social media.

0:10.0

Yeah, so there's a sort of like he keeps on doing things

0:12.6

and people need help processing it.

0:14.4

And comedy is really good at processing things in a way

0:17.7

where you leave if not feeling better,

0:20.3

feeling lighter or less burdened by something.

0:23.7

And that question of if you should feel less burdened by things

0:28.2

is a thing that I think probably was debated also under Trump, right?

0:30.7

It's like, well, maybe we should feel bad all the time.

0:32.9

And if we feel bad all the time, we'll do something.

0:35.3

And that's not proven out, but I'm John Favreau.

0:41.1

Welcome to Offline.

0:46.5

Hey, everyone.

0:47.3

My guess this week is Vultures Jesse David Fox.

0:50.8

So Max is out sick.

0:52.4

I'm traveling.

0:53.7

We just did our show in DC.

0:55.6

So this week, we're just going to do this interview,

0:58.2

which was a fantastic interview.

1:00.2

Jesse is the senior editor at Vulture.

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