Why Dictators Take Out the Internet
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🗓️ 1 February 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
The Iranian government cut off nearly all internet access on January 8 as part of a crackdown on protestors, an example of why authoritarians attempt internet blackouts—and why they don’t always work the way authoritarians want them to.
Guest: Steve Feldstein, political scientist and senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in the Democracy, Conflict, and Governance Program.
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| 0:00.0 | In late December, Steve Feldstein started to hear murmurings out of Iran that the government was making it harder to communicate online. |
| 0:12.3 | I was speaking to folks and I really started to hear that there was either word in the street that shutdowns were coming, and there were the beginnings of different |
| 0:21.0 | areas that were starting to experience partial internet disruptions. |
| 0:25.9 | Steve studies the intersection of technology and national security at the Carnegie Endowment |
| 0:30.9 | for International Peace. He worked for the State Department under President Obama. |
| 0:36.1 | How quickly did your brain go to, oh, they're going to turn off the internet? |
| 0:42.3 | I would say right away. |
| 0:44.3 | We start today's other headlines in Iran. |
| 0:46.3 | Across that country, internet and phone service were almost completely shut off |
| 0:50.3 | amid widening protests over the state of the country's economy. |
| 0:55.0 | I've been tracking these issues for many years at this point. |
| 0:59.0 | I've seen it happen in Iran. I've seen it happen in other countries in a region. |
| 1:03.0 | And I've seen it happen around the world. |
| 1:05.0 | So as you can see, the leadership in Tehran is responding with an incredibly harsh crackdown. |
| 1:10.0 | This is really part and parcel of the regime's playbook. |
| 1:13.6 | And as protests start to really escalate, I thought to myself, |
| 1:16.9 | well, if they get out of hand, which most likely they could, |
| 1:21.1 | or they might, because of the economic crisis, |
| 1:23.4 | then a natural turn to would be shutting off the internet. |
| 1:29.0 | This during a 48-hour period that will go down in the history books |
| 1:33.4 | as one of the bloodiest clampdowns on street protests in modern times. |
| 1:42.8 | Over the past few weeks, activists say some 6,000 Iranians have been killed in the regime's crackdown on national protests. |
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