Why Bibi Always Needs More War (Robert Wright & Alex Gibney)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

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4.7 • 618 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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0:30 The time Alex blocked everyone's view of Jennifer Aniston 4:40 How Alex acquired the Bibi interrogation tapes 9:00 What the Bibi Files suggest about the Gaza war 11:58 Bibi's bribes 16:40 Bibi-Trump parallels 27:03 Barriers to getting the movie distributed (and where to watch it) 42:10 Heading to Overtime (and Bob’s and Alex's unfinished film)

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Alex Gibney (Going Clear, Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room, Taxi to the Dark Side, The Bibi Files). Recorded June 10, 2025.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:27.1	Hello, Alex.
0:31.0	Hey, Bob.
0:31.5	How are you?
0:32.9	I'm doing great.
0:34.5	Let me introduce this.
0:41.0	Let me introduce this. That's an inside joke, folks.
0:48.3	So, I'm Robert Wright. This is the non-zero podcast. I published a non-zero newsletter. Everyone should subscribe to it. You're Alex Gibney, as you know, famous documentary documentary maker you won the Academy Award for best
0:57.5	documentary in 2007 for taxi to the dark side you've done a number of other
1:04.5	documentaries of note for example before before that you did Enron the smartest guys in the
1:10.5	room in 2005.
1:12.7	Now, Alex, you probably don't remember this because so many of my contributions to American
1:16.8	culture are forgotten, but the night you were, you had to finalize the title for the
1:22.5	Enron documentary, you called me for guidance. Did I? Yes, such was your trust in me before you knew me better. You tried to talk me out of it, or did you agree it was a good title? The question was, you were thinking about just calling it the smartest guys in the room, but there was an argument for having the word Enron in there somewhere. I think I argued for that. I don't really remember how it came out, but I think I did want the word Enron in there somewhere. Anyway, you managed to have it both ways. It did great. And, you know, then you went on to win the Academy Award. And who knows, if the Enron thing hadn't had a good title, if you hadn't consulted me, would you have won the Academy Award for the other documentary? It wasn't until this moment that I realized it.
2:04.0	Yeah.
2:04.3	Well, I'll tell you, you sure didn't remember why you're giving the Academy Award acceptance speech
2:08.2	because I know you didn't thank me for working on the title of your previous.
2:13.5	Yeah, yeah.
2:15.5	By the way, what's it like?
2:17.5	You didn't seem intimidated at all when you gave that speech.
2:20.3	I would have been, like, visibly sweating.
2:23.0	I was sweating.
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