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Robert Wright's Nonzero

Is the US-China Trade War About to Explode? | NonZero World feat. Jake Werner

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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0:30 Headlines 1:22 - Israel-Iran 2:14 - Sanctions 2:57 - NATO 3:35 - Revolving doors 4:22 - US-China trade war 5:34 How China views the Israel-Iran crisis 10:17 Why the Iran attacks undermine US-China talks 11:32 How the US and China reached the brink of all-out trade war 19:21 China's not-so-secret weapon in trade talks 22:36 Why China won't back down 29:06 Trump vs. his advisers 35:00 Structural obstacles to US-China cooperation 39:06 The zero-sum trap: Can both sides grow?

Recorded June 13, 2025.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Non-Zero World.

0:04.0

I'm your host, Connor Eccles.

0:07.0

Each week, I break down the latest developments in U.S. foreign policy and other global news,

0:14.0

and I interview a leading expert or activist.

0:17.0

To gain access to full-length episodes and other exclusive content, become an NZN member today at Robert Wright's Non Zero Newsletter at Nanzero.org.

0:29.9

A Chinese fighter jet flew within 50 yards of a Japanese patrol plane during military drills in the Pacific,

0:37.0

prompting a rebuke from Japanese

0:38.6

officials who warned that such close passes could lead to accidental collisions.

0:43.3

China, for its part, placed the blame on Japan for its close-in reconnaissance flights

0:48.3

aimed at surveilling Chinese military activities.

0:51.3

The close call comes amid rising tensions in the Pacific as both China and the United

0:56.0

States and its allies have carried out a series of military drills in recent months.

1:02.7

Welcome to Non Zero World. I'm your host, Connor Eccles. In a few minutes, Jake Werner, the

1:08.6

director of the East Asia program at the Quincy Institute,

1:11.7

will join me for an in-depth conversation about our main story of the week, which is the U.S.-China Trade War.

1:19.0

But first, here are some of this week's most important headlines.

1:22.5

Israel launched a wide-ranging assault on Iran, killing more than 20 of Iran's senior military officials

1:29.3

and damaging several nuclear facilities. President Trump endorsed Israel's attack in a post-on-truth

1:35.0

social, but added that it could represent an opportunity for Iran to accept a new nuclear deal,

1:41.6

quote, before there is nothing left, end quote.

1:44.5

Girard Arro, a former French ambassador to the U.S. who has taken part in Iran nuclear talks

1:50.5

in the past, warned on Twitter that the attacks could backfire.

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