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Music Hello, and welcome to episode nine of the David From Show.

I'm David Frum, a staff writer at The Atlantic.

Today I'll be joined by Marty Barron, formerly executive editor of the Washington Post,

during the first Trump term, and during the transition of ownership at the Washington Post from the Graham family

that had led it for so many years to new ownership under Jeff Bezos. Marty Barron is one of the most

important media leaders of our time and has spoken forcefully, both in person and in his

memoir, collision of power,

about the threats to free press and the responsibilities of that press. I'll finish the episode

with some thoughts about the way the media have covered the old age and infirmity of former

President Joe Biden. But let me begin by addressing this larger topic of press freedom and press responsibility in the second Trump term.

President Trump began his campaign and has spent much of his first term attacking the media, calling the media, free media, enemies of the people, enemies of the state, and huffing and complaining and generally persecuting and often inciting dangerous threats

against individual members of the press.

If you covered the Trump presidency in that first term, especially if you were a woman,

you suddenly found yourself being attacked both digitally and often in person in ways

unlike anything ever seen before.

Death threats, harassment, abuse,

anti-Semitic and misogynistic, racist, the worst kind of garbage. I even got a little

splash up myself. I had an FBI man come to the house to warn my wife that there had been some

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