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The David Frum Show

Trump's Plot Against the 2026 Elections

The David Frum Show

The Atlantic

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.62.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ ? minutes

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On this episode of The David Frum Show, The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with a warning about how President Donald Trump could be testing a strategy to subvert the 2026 midterm elections by creating chaos to justify his use of extreme executive power. David also discusses how Trump’s feud with Elon Musk reveals a deeper truth about power in the postdemocracy Republican Party. Then David is joined by Arizona Senator Ruben Gallego to discuss how Democrats can win the votes of young men, the importance of free trade and patriotism in today’s Democratic Party, and how Gallego has been so successful with Latino voters at a time when Latino men are trending so strongly Republican. David closes the episode with thoughts on Trump’s $100 million birthday military parade in Washington, D.C. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Atlantic subscribers also get access to exclusive subscriber audio in Apple Podcasts. Subscribe today at theAtlantic.com/listener. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:15.1

Music Hello, and welcome to another episode of the David From Show. I'm David Frum, a staff writer at the Atlantic. My guest this week is Senator Ruben Gallego, from Arizona, one of the rising stars of the Democratic Party.

0:40.3

I recorded my interview with Senator Gallego on the 5th of June.

0:44.2

And at that time, I also recorded a monologue talking about the White House farce, tragedy, conflict between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

0:53.5

Elon Musk being the richest man in the world, the biggest contributor to the Trump campaign,

0:58.6

the de facto chief of staff and vice president to Donald Trump and Donald Trump, the president

1:03.0

of the United States.

1:04.5

But one of the lessons of the Trump years is it never pays to do things early.

1:09.0

You always want to leave things to the last minute because however

1:11.8

outrageous the big story on Thursday is, there may be something that happens on the weekend

1:16.1

that is even bigger. And so it is. So we're topping that topper with another topper.

1:21.7

Over the weekend, there was an outbreak of unruly protest, disorderly protest, and even violent

1:26.9

protest in Los Angeles

1:28.7

against immigration raids by the Trump administration. I'm at some distance. I wasn't an eyewitness.

1:33.9

I'm relying on news reports. And there's some uncertainty about exactly what happened.

1:37.7

But it looks like rocks were thrown at ice vehicles. Protesters tried to impede ICE officers

1:43.1

doing their duty. Fireworks were shot off.

1:45.9

A car seems to have been set on fire. Now, all of this is illegal, disorderly, and must, of course,

1:51.9

be met by the force of law. Fortunately, there are nearly 9,000 officers of the Los Angeles

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