Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And in a second, I'm going to introduce a good friend of mine. I have a great discussion about kids. But before we get there, two things. One is we were finalists for a Signal Award for where the schools went. Our podcast is all about the New Orleans schools transformation. And so go on there.

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But without further ado, now that we've gotten that out of the way, we have a repeat guest.

I can't remember how many times,

at least once my friend Lenore Skenezy, who wrote Free Range Kids. She runs Let, Let Grow.

Right, Lenore? Let grow. Let grow. You can't even see it against my shirt. There it is. Let grow. See? Down there.

And she recently gave an amazing TED Talk and also co-authored a piece in the

atlantic all about these subjects that we've been talking about on this podcast which is kids and

whether kids could be kids anymore which also incidentally it's been a big topic in that substack

i just talked about but lenore welcome back why thank you i wrote down out for myself, go vote for where the schools went. So after this, I'm going to, you'll have my vote. Awesome. And we'll make sure, Lauren, our producer sends that over your way so that you can get that easy access to that link. I find I spend all my time now just like pestering my friends to vote for random things that is involving.

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