Welcome to The Lost Debata Show for Political Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And today I talk to

Mateo Wong from the Atlantic, who essentially is one of their main reporters on the artificial

intelligence beat. And we talk about, when we start with the question of AI safety for children

and the question of suicide risk in the use of these AI chatbots. But then we get into the questions of what are the

differences between these companies, like the leadership of these companies, the beliefs in these

companies, and the models themselves, like which models are people going to for which particular

tasks? And then we talk about the future, like which companies on the horizon

could potentially be new entrants to shake things up or existing entrants who are set to play

a much bigger role. So stick around for that. Before we get there, remember we are up for the

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further ado, let's jump in with our conversation with Mateo.

Mateo, welcome to the podcast. Thanks so much for having me.

So how does one get on the AI beat at the Atlantic? Like when did you start writing about the subject?

Yeah, that's a funny question.

It was really random, actually, in a few months before ChatGPT came out.

So this would have been like late summer, early fall, 2022.

I was an assistant editor on the science, tech, and health teams.

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