Why America Isn’t Rome (And Why That Matters)
The David Frum Show
The Atlantic
4.6 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 27 August 2025
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| 0:15.0 | Music Hello, and welcome back to the David From show. |
| 0:29.8 | I'm David From, a staff writer at the Atlantic. |
| 0:33.2 | Today's show will be about history, its use, and its misuse. |
| 0:38.0 | Now, that's not so unusual. |
| 0:40.2 | There's a lot of discussion of history in the podcast world, but this show is unusual in that my guest is not some self-taught crackpot, not some professor of chemistry somewhere who has some thoughts about Jews. |
| 0:51.6 | Today's guest will be Dame Mary Beard, who is Great Britain's leading |
| 0:55.2 | classicist and expert on the history of Rome and the ancient world. So you're going to be talking |
| 0:59.7 | to somebody or hearing from someone who knows what she's talking about. And that's a little |
| 1:04.3 | different from what often happens in discussions of history on the internet. Walter Lippman, a century |
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| 1:11.6 | The really important thing is to try and make opinion increasingly responsible to the facts. |
| 1:17.6 | There can be no liberty for a community which lacks the information by which to detect lies. |
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