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The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Why Algorithms Can’t Predict Your Love Life with Dr. Paul Eastwick

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.714.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Modern dating can feel like a marketplace. We’re told we all have a “mate value,” that some people are 9s and 10s, and that the laws of evolution determine who gets chosen — and who gets rejected. But what if we’ve misunderstood what evolutionary science actually says about love?

Dr. Laurie sits down with social psychologist Dr. Paul Eastwick, author of Bonded by Evolution: The New Science of Love and Connection, to challenge some of the most pervasive myths about attraction and compatibility. Do dating app algorithms actually know who's right for you? Are we really all placed in different "leagues"? If you’ve ever wondered whether love is destiny, biology, or something you can actually create, Dr. Eastwick offers a surprising new perspective.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Bonded by Evolution: The New Science of Love and Connection

The Pairing Game: A Classroom Demonstration of the Matching Phenomenon

Matching for Attractiveness in Romantic Partners and Same-Sex Friends: A Meta-Analysis and Theoretical Critique

The Social Relations Model

Once More: Is Beauty in the Eye of the Beholder? Relative contributions of private and shared taste to judgments of facial attractiveness

Sex Differences in Mate Preferences Revisited: Do People Know What They Initially Desire in a Romantic Partner?

Northwestern Speed-dating Study I

Northwestern Speed-dating Study II

The (Mental) Ties That Bind: Cognitive Structures That Predict Relationship Resilience

We’re Not That Choosy: Emerging Evidence of a Progression Bias in Romantic Relationships

Romantic Relationship Status Biases Memory of Faces of Attractive Opposite-Sex Others: Evidence from a Reverse-Correlation Paradigm

Relationship Regulation in the Face of Eye Candy: a Motivated Cognition Framework for Understanding Responses to Attractive Alternatives

Perceived, not actual, similarity predicts initial attraction in a live romantic context: Evidence from the speed-dating paradigm

Is Romantic Desire Predictable? Machine Learning Applied to Initial Romantic Attraction

Love Factually

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:10.8

As William Shakespeare once said, the course of true love never did run smooth.

0:18.0

And one of the unsmoothest parts of love is the initial attraction phase.

0:22.6

You see somebody across the way who looks kind of cute, but will that person like you back?

0:27.5

Will they think you're hot enough? Smart enough? Successful enough? Sometimes the answer is yes.

0:33.5

Cue all the hearts and fireworks. But at least some of the time, the answer is no.

0:38.3

The person that you're into isn't that into you.

0:41.3

Relationships and attraction especially, there can be a lot of rejection.

0:45.7

It can be pretty demoralizing.

0:47.5

And to some extent you can't skip that part, but I think it really matters.

0:51.2

Why was I rejected in this instance?

0:53.9

This is Dr. Paul Eastwick, an expert on the psychology of human mating.

0:58.0

And there's a whole set of ideas out there that suggests that you got rejected because

1:03.1

you're a three out of ten. And you're just going to need to settle for the other threes.

1:10.8

Paul is referring to a set of ideas he calls the Evo script,

1:14.2

the notion that human attraction boils down to the harsh laws of natural selection.

1:18.7

Under the Evo script, finding the right partner is all about finding someone with good genes.

1:23.7

Some of us, those so-called nines and tens out there,

1:26.5

possess a whole host of traits that signal those good genes. The rest of us, those so-called nines and tens out there, possess a whole host of traits that signal those good genes.

1:29.6

The rest of us, not so much.

1:31.7

You have a certain set of attributes.

1:34.1

They characterize who you are and they determine what you're going to get on the market.

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