Who’s in Trump’s ear / Ceasefire extension / Life inside Iran
Sources & Methods
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🗓️ 23 April 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with National Security Correspondent Greg Myre and White House Correspondent Franco Ordoñez. They discuss how the conflict with Iran is at a standstill as Trump struggles to make a deal. Meanwhile, what is life like for Iranians?
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| 0:00.0 | In the short term, I don't think it necessarily looks great for the president. |
| 0:07.0 | I think it shows that he is in a much more difficult situation than he expected to be, |
| 0:12.7 | and it just really amplifies that. |
| 0:15.6 | Ships still aren't moving through the Strait of Hormuz. |
| 0:19.9 | There still isn't a deal on Iran's nuclear |
| 0:22.3 | program. The U.S. war with Iran is starting to feel a lot like Groundhog Day. What's the next move |
| 0:29.6 | to get the U.S. out of the conflict? This is sources and methods from NPR. I'm Mary Louise Kelly every Thursday on this podcast. |
| 0:40.6 | We dive deep into the week's biggest national security stories with the NPR reporters who are out in the world covering them. |
| 0:47.6 | Today we have NPR National Security correspondent Greg Myrie in the studio. |
| 0:52.0 | Hello, Greg. |
| 0:52.7 | Hi, Mary Louise. |
| 0:53.6 | And a big welcome because making his debut very first time on sources and methods is White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. Welcome to you. |
| 1:01.8 | Thank you so much. Great to be here. |
| 1:03.1 | I have a fascinating fact to throw in, which is you and I discovered we both grew up in Atlanta. |
| 1:08.8 | I know. |
| 1:09.5 | I believe we discovered we graduated high school |
| 1:11.8 | the same year. Did we? 1989. I graduated a year later in 1990. You're rubbing it in. And we went to |
| 1:20.4 | arch rival high schools. So go lions. Go wildcats. On that note, we are all in the same studio. We're all in the same time zone. Sorry, |
| 1:30.9 | we'll timestamp this at just after 1 p.m. Thursday. Greg, you kick us off. I am following the |
| 1:39.5 | war in Iran with intense interest, and I am struggling to make sense of exactly where things stand today. |
| 1:46.0 | So where do things stand today? We know that the ceasefire is holding, kind of, and President |
| 1:51.3 | Trump has now extended that ceasefire indefinitely. Yeah, it was supposed to expire this week, |
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