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Sources & Methods

Iran ‘ceasefire’ / Hungary election / U.S.-NATO tension

Sources & Methods

NPR

Politics, News

4.9919 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

President Trump is threatening NATO — again. NATO — is bracing for divorce. Can the transatlantic relationship be saved? 


Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with NPR National Security correspondent Greg Myre and NPR International Correspondent Rob Schmitz about how the war with Iran is affecting the U.S. alliance with Europe. Rob also opens his reporter's notebook and shares what it was like covering Hungary's historic election that ousted the longest-serving leader in the European Union, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.

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0:00.0

A quick word before the show. In the intelligence world, the ability to synthesize competing,

0:06.5

often contradictory streams of information from different sources, it's really valuable.

0:12.2

So stick with me on the metaphor here. Think of the NPR app as your own personal, all-source

0:18.9

briefing. The NPR app synthesizes local reporting, national coverage,

0:24.0

global coverage, your favorite podcasts, everything you need to stay ahead of the news, all in one

0:29.1

place. Download the NPR app today, and when you do, make sure to search for and follow sources

0:35.4

and methods.

0:43.2

President Trump failed to consult with the European allies before the war, and now he's actively insulting the allies.

0:45.6

President Trump is threatening to leave NATO again.

0:49.9

NATO is bracing for divorce.

0:51.9

Can this relationship be saved? This is sources and methods from NPR.

0:58.8

I'm Mary Louise Kelly. It is Thursday, which means on this podcast we're diving into the week's biggest national security stories with the NPR reporters who are out there covering them.

1:10.0

Two of our finest here this week here in the studio with me, NPR National Security Correspondent, Greg Myrie.

1:15.6

Hello, my friend.

1:16.5

Hi, Mary Louise.

1:17.3

And surprise, because right next to Greg is Rob Schmitz, who of course is usually based in Berlin,

1:23.2

although he was out roaming and reporting this past weekend in Budapest, Hungary, for the big election there, which we're going to get to.

1:30.2

But in the meantime, we were so happy you hopped on a plane to come see us here at headquarters in Washington.

1:35.0

Welcome, Rob.

1:35.7

Thank you. It's great to be here.

1:37.1

I want to share, as we were settling into our chairs, YouTube, we're swapping notes.

1:41.8

The last time y'all were in the same room together was in Tel Aviv,

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