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Sources & Methods

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Politics, News

4.9919 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Saturday’s attack at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner was the third assassination attempt on President Trump.


Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with NPR National Security Correspondent Greg Myre and NPR Justice Correspondent Ryan Lucas about what the attack says about the state of political violence in the U.S. and the debate over whether the Secret Service was ready to protect Trump and those around him. 

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0:00.0

There is just generally speaking a growing acceptance for violence being an acceptable way to settle political differences in this country.

0:11.3

Security failure or success.

0:14.0

The debate over whether the Secret Service was ready to guard President Trump and those around him.

0:20.2

And what does this third assassination attempt on this president tell us about political violence in the U.S.?

0:27.6

This is sources and methods from NPR.

0:33.8

I marry Louise Kelly every Thursday on this podcast.

0:37.0

We dive deep into the week's biggest national security stories with the NPR reporters covering them. Today we have NPR National Security correspondent Greg. Myrie back with us. Howdy, Greg?

0:47.3

Hi, Mary Louise. And NPR justice correspondent, Ryan Lucas. You're having a busy week. How are you? It's been a week. I'm fine.

0:53.9

Welcome. Welcome back to timest busy week. How are you? It's been a week. I'm fine. Welcome, welcome back.

0:56.0

To timestamp this, we are talking.

0:59.0

It is just past 1.30 p.m. here in Washington on Thursday, which makes it five days since the White House correspondence dinner, a dinner at which much of the Washington Press Corps, including you, Greg,

1:12.7

ended up huddled on the floor under the banquet tables. There are still all kinds of

1:17.4

unanswered questions about what exactly happened that night, and we're going to take them

1:21.0

one by one. Ryan, I will let you start because you are just back from court this morning. Tell us where you were. What happened? What new did we learn?

1:32.9

So this was supposed to be a detention hearing for the man accused of trying to assassinate President Trump, Cole Allen.

1:40.5

It ended up being a bit of a nothingburger in the sense that he conceded detention. He actually

1:46.4

is not challenging the government's request to have him held pending trial. Not trying to get out

1:52.1

on bail. Not trying to get out on bail. He did reserve the right to challenge it down the road,

1:56.4

but we were expecting to get maybe some new information out of prosecutors today about what investigators have learned.

2:02.8

But we did not.

2:03.7

But we have learned in the past couple days a bit more from court filings from both the government and most recently from Allen's defense lawyers about him and his alleged planning to conduct the attack on Saturday.

2:16.2

Start with him.

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