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On Point | Podcast

Who are the Zizians?

On Point | Podcast

WBUR

Talk Show, Daily News, News, Npr, On Point, Daily

4.23.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

A cult-like group referred to as the Zizians is linked to a string of violent deaths across the U.S. It has its roots in Silicon Valley – and a movement called Rationalism. Who are these groups and what do they believe?

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0:45.6

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0:48.4

A cult-like group known as the Zizians is believed to be behind a string of violent deaths across the United States.

0:56.5

On New Year's Eve in 2022, Rita and Richard Zajko were shocked and killed in their home in suburban Philadelphia.

1:04.7

According to court documents, a ring camera captured audio of what sounded like shouting of mom.

1:10.3

Then, oh my God, oh my God. The couple's

1:13.2

daughter, Michelle, was questioned in the homicide, but never charged. Michelle is linked to the

1:18.9

Zizians. She was later arrested with the founder of the group. Earlier in November of 22,

1:25.2

in California, a landlord named Curtis Lind was stabbed in the chest with a sword.

1:31.3

His friend, Patrick McMillan, told authorities that Lind was stabbed in a dispute over unpaid rent.

1:38.0

McMillan says his 80-year-old landlord had been brutally attacked by other tenants of the Vallejo property,

1:44.2

who Lind was in the process of evicting because they hadn't paid rent in years.

1:49.5

Now, Lynn survived that attack, but he was stabbed again in January of this year, this time to death.

1:57.1

Also in January, a Border Patrol agent in Vermont was killed in a shootout during a traffic stop involving two people.

2:04.6

Authorities say the agent was killed in the line of duty yesterday on Interstate 91 in Coventry.

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