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On Point | Podcast

'The biomedical research enterprise is under attack'

On Point | Podcast

WBUR

Talk Show, Daily News, News, Npr, On Point, Daily

4.23.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

In a conversation recorded at the WBUR Festival, Dr. Anthony Fauci speaks frankly about the threats he sees to public health under the Trump administration and the “severe intimidation” of scientists at the NIH.

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0:35.4

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0:40.3

Hi everyone, it's Megna, and today we've got a special podcast-only drop for you featuring Dr. Anthony Fauci.

0:52.3

Fauci spent a half century in public service at the National Institutes of Health,

0:57.0

and of course, as a presidential advisor across multiple administrations,

1:02.0

including as a COVID advisor for President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden.

1:08.0

In that time, Fauci was both celebrated as a clear-headed scientist who had to navigate

1:13.3

the unpredictable behavior of a novel pandemic and a president.

1:18.4

He was also hated and reviled by others for the advice he gave on vaccines, school closures,

1:25.0

and lockdowns.

1:26.6

To this day, Fauci receives death threats. He's written about

1:30.6

that experience and about his efforts fighting the AIDS epidemic in a memoir called On Call,

1:37.0

a doctor's journey in public service. Well, Dr. Fauci recently visited us here in Boston for the first WBUR festival,

1:46.6

a multi-day event featuring some of the most compelling thinkers in the country.

1:50.9

He sat down with me before a packed house to talk about everything from missteps he admits took place during the COVID lockdowns

1:57.9

to what colleagues still at NIH are telling him about the Trump administration's

2:02.9

total evisceration of scientific and health research in this country. And now you get to hear that

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