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And welcome back.

We're going to do a segment here an hour of conversations with great minds and our guest today

as professor Sophie Bjork James, PhD, an anthropologist and assistant professor of the practice

anthropology department of Vanderbilt University, author of the new book The Divine Institution,

White, Evangelicalisms, Politics of the Family. She's also the co-editor of Beyond Populism,

Angry Politics in the Twilight of Neoliberalism.

Website is Sophie Bjork James, SOPHIEBJORKJAMES.com

and S. Bjork James is her Twitter handle.

Professor Bjork James, welcome to the program and thank you for joining us and thank you for

writing this brilliant book. I'm very pleased to have you with us.

Thank you for this for having me. I'm really happy to be here.

I'm fascinated by the rise of white evangelicalism and

let's begin by defining terms because this is a relatively recent

phenomenon in your book. In some ways kind of track it back to the 1940s but point to other

milestones. Exactly. How do you define the subject of your book, white evangelicalism?

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