Which Opinions Are Out of Bounds?
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
New York Times Opinion
4.0 • 7.2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 June 2020
⏱️ 38 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Michelle Goldberg. |
| 0:02.0 | I'm Frank Rooney. |
| 0:04.0 | I'm Ross Douthet, and this is the argument. |
| 0:17.0 | We'd like to start today's show with an apology to all of you who wrote or called in to ask |
| 0:22.0 | what happened to last week's episode. |
| 0:24.0 | The answer is that we took an unexpected week off, |
| 0:27.0 | and we apologize for not giving our listeners a heads up. |
| 0:30.0 | Here's what happened. |
| 0:32.0 | Our department, the opinion section of The New York Times, was in turmoil. |
| 0:36.0 | The cause was an op-ed that we published by Tom Cotton, a Republican senator from Arkansas. |
| 0:42.0 | It called for deploying the US military to end the riots and looting taking place in American cities around some of the Black Lives Matter protests. |
| 0:52.0 | Sometimes readers and sometimes reporters swiftly denounced the piece, arguing that it represented a tacit call for violence against protesters, |
| 1:01.0 | and that it endangered the lives of times reporters of color who were already at risk while covering the unrest. |
| 1:08.0 | In the wake of this controversy, the Times of Editorial Page Editor, James Bennett, our boss, resigned. |
| 1:15.0 | The paper published an editor's note on top of the original op-ed explaining that the essay fell short of our op-ed standards and shouldn't have gone out. |
| 1:24.0 | Because arguing is what we do, a number of op-ed writers have since weighed in, myself included. |
| 1:31.0 | I wrote a defense of publishing the piece, mistaken though I thought Cotton's argument was, |
| 1:36.0 | and a critique of what I see as the more activist direction that journalism and our paper seems to be taking in its coverage of American debates. |
| 1:45.0 | Today we're going to talk a little bit about the op-ed controversy, hopefully without too much New York Times naval gazing. |
| 1:52.0 | And then we'll talk about the debates, roiling our industry more generally, about objectivity versus truth, |
| 1:58.0 | about the press's duty to report multiple sides of a debate versus its duty to stand up for democratic values. |
| 2:06.0 | And then we'll also talk about the way the Black Lives Matter movement has inspired a reckoning with some of these questions, |
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