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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Place Your Bets on Biden’s V.P.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

Journalism, New York Times, Ross Douthat, News, Society & Culture

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Joe Biden has vowed to pick a woman as his running mate. But of the many qualified contenders, who should win the veepstakes? Michelle and Frank have different ideas as to whose name on the ticket could help push Biden to victory in November. Then, editorial board member Jesse Wegman joins Ross and Frank for a Supreme Court battle: has SCOTUS usurped Congress when it comes to legislating America’s culture wars? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.2

I'm Frank Bruney.

0:02.4

I'm Ross Douthet, and this is the argument.

0:23.9

Today on the show, it's Veepe Stakes,

0:27.2

where Michelle and Frank go to bat for their top Biden VP picks,

0:31.1

and I get to watch or listen.

0:33.1

And then we're going to talk about some weird stuff going on at the Supreme Court.

0:37.1

It's supposed to be a co-equal branch of government,

0:39.9

so why do the judges keep taking over for Congress?

0:43.1

I think the right thing to do right now, and I told this to Vice President Biden,

0:48.3

is to put a woman of color on the ticket as the next Vice President of our country.

0:54.0

All I know is that Joe Biden needs to win.

0:56.6

And I think that the last week, Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar

0:59.9

withdrew her name from Joe Biden's list of possible VP picks,

1:03.6

and urged the Democratic nominee to choose a woman of color as his running mate.

1:08.6

Biden has already pledged to pick a woman, but he hasn't gotten more specific.

1:12.6

And the field of possibilities remains pretty big.

1:15.3

Kamala Harris, Val Demings, Gretchen Whitmer, Susan Rice, Elizabeth Warren,

1:20.8

the list goes on.

1:22.2

So who should he pick?

1:23.5

Who's the person most likely to help him win the presidency?

1:26.9

To answer this question, we'll pit my co-hosts against each other,

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