Hi, I'm Kate. And I'm Lori. We've always thought that the most compelling story

strikes the perfect balance between an honest look at the mess of life and the humor that can be found in the mess.

To be perfectly honest, we don't really know how to live life without both the humor and the authenticity.

Our podcast might be a little bit of whiplash at times. We can spin from hard, We don't really know how to live life without both the humor and the authenticity.

Our podcast might be a little bit of whiplash at times.

We can spin from hard and deep to humor and laughing on a dime.

The hard will be really hard and the truths we share are the ugliest of humanity.

We don't intend to make it seem like it's all fine or to pretty up the pain.

But we also know that the joy we found is all the more profound because of the pain. So we hope you can stick with us through the ugly

because there will also be joy and hope and humor. Welcome to the ugly truth about the girl

next door. Hi, welcome back to our podcast, the Ugly Truth about the Girl Next Door.

I'm Kate.

And I'm Lori.

And we're back.

So today we are talking about kind of high-leveling the different churches that we've talked

about and that were involved in all

of this. I kind of realized that we went backwards. Yeah, we started with the chapel just because

that was the current day thing that was happening when we started the podcast, literally the

counseling pastor of the chapel standing up on stage talking about how grateful he was to be in community with my

abusers was the catalyst to starting the podcast, right? So that's where we started. But the chapel

is really more of a recent thing. And we've kind of worked our way backwards. But that is a little

confusing for people. So we want a high level that today. And then we also want to just address some of the comments, I guess.

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