Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. Today's guest is journalist Brooke Baldwin,

author, former CNN anchor, and a dear later in life friend. Hi, friends, throughout this holiday season,

you will find me right here per normal. We will keep publishing new episodes every week,

and a few solos thrown in as well. So when you just need

to escape from the business of the holiday shuffle or take a break from mom or dad or who knows who,

we'll be here as we always are. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. I'm an author, podcast host and parent who built a long career in media. I grew up in a state of perpetual curiosity, investigating the world and asking a lot of questions.

In this show, I chat with culture-defining leaders, thinkers, and experts about this rare

moment that we find ourselves in and how to think about our own lives and experiences within a larger

social and spiritual construct.

I talk to so many women who, you know, we talk about huddle and we talk about, I referenced, you know, back catalog friends, people who I've known for years and years, you are never

too late to add to your huddle. You are never, it is, you are never too old to add to your

circle of friends. And what Elise is alluding to is certainly something that I feel as well, which is, you are never too old to add to your circle of friends. And what

Elise is alluding to is certainly something that I feel as well, which is, you know, we live

in these various chapters in our, in our lifetimes, you know, things change. We go through

different phases. We have these various aha moments. I think for you and I, we've both really

deepened our spiritual practices and our intentionality around life and what we want to do

and how we want to share ourselves. And I think as we've been in these more vulnerable spaces,

on the other side of giant things we've been a part of, we've gotten to know ourselves better.

Many years ago, journalist Brooke Baldwin sat in her mother's bedroom and cried about the state

of her career and her relationship. And while she was grateful for her mother's bedroom and cried about the state of her career and her relationship.

And while she was grateful for her mom's attention and support, she had a simultaneous thought.

Where were her friends? Thus became her quest, ancillary to her daytime job as an anchor on CNN,

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