Hi, it's Elise Luna and host of Pulling the Thread.

Today's guest is psychotherapist Galit Atlas, author of Emotional Heritons.

We're going to talk about the transmission of intergenerational trauma.

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Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread.

I'm an author, podcast host, and parent who built a long career in media.

I grew up in a state of perpetual curiosity,

investigating the world and asking a lot of questions. In this show, I chat with culture defining leaders, thinkers, and experts about this rare moment that we find ourselves in and how to think about

our own lives and experiences within a larger social and spiritual construct.

When we talk about the ghost of the unsaid, we're talking about the inherited feelings of our parents'

unprocessed trauma and the phantoms that lived inside them. We're talking about traumas that our parents and grandparents could not

process, and they are transmitted to us in some raw way. And I quote in the book, Holocaust survivors,

Maria Toroque, Nicholas Abraham, who said, what haunts us are not the dead, but the gaps left within us by the secrets of others.

So says psychotherapist Galit Atlas, who has spent her life and career both witnessing and unraveling the ways that the lived and unlived experiences of our ancestors can show up in our own lives.

Galit, who is Syrian, Iranian by way of Israel, grew up in the midst of trauma,

violence that continued to unfold around her against a generational tapestry of pain.

We talked today about the direct transmission of trauma in our conversation as well as these

gaps or secrets that show up in her practice again and again.

Just because it's not spoken doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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