WHEN THE CHINA MIRACLE CRASHED: 8/8: Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century by Josh Rogin (Author)
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🗓️ 7 August 2023
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WHEN THE CHINA MIRACLE CRASHED: 8/8: Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century by Josh Rogin (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Under-Heaven-Twenty-First-Century/dp/0358393248
By the time the COVID-19 pandemic erupted in Wuhan, Trump’s love-hate relationship with Xi had sparked a trade war, while Xi’s aggression had pushed the world to the brink of a new Cold War. But their quarrel had also forced a long-overdue reckoning within the United States over China’s audacious foreign-influence operations, horrific human rights abuses, and creeping digital despotism. Ironically, this awakening was one of the biggest foreign-policy victories of Trump’s fractious term in office.
Filled with shocking revelations drawn from Josh Rogin’s unparalleled access to top U.S. officials from the White House and deep within the country’s foreign policy machine, Chaos Under Heaven reveals an administration at war with itself during perhaps our most urgent hour.
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| 0:28.3 | I'm John Bachelors. This is the new John Bachelors show Josh Rogan of the Washington Post. |
| 0:32.5 | His new book is Chaos Under Heaven, Trump She and the Battle for the 21st Century. |
| 0:37.6 | It is the spring of 2020, just yesterday. And the expectation is that the virus |
| 0:45.1 | can be dealt with in some fashion in time. A vaccine, careful safety mechanisms, |
| 0:52.6 | a marshalling of the population of the United States or the population of Europe of all continents |
| 0:58.3 | to prevent the spread of the virus enough so that health facilities can care for those who are |
| 1:03.6 | very ill. The vulnerable are over 60 or over 50 at the pre-existing conditions. We know all this, |
| 1:09.6 | but still it is necessary to name the thing correctly as Confucius tells us, |
| 1:15.3 | where did the virus come from? How did it suddenly show itself in Wuhan? One theory |
| 1:22.6 | advanced by the Chinese is that it was natural out of jumping from one species to another, |
| 1:30.1 | perhaps bats to Pangolin and then to mankind, who would consume the Pangolin. Another theory |
| 1:36.7 | advanced by the Chinese soon after the revelations of the catastrophe in Wuhan was that it was spread |
| 1:44.6 | by the United States military. It was fantastic at the time and it was puzzling, but it was a theory. |
| 1:51.3 | Another approach was a lab accident. Josh spends a deal of time pulling together |
| 1:56.7 | what we know so far about the lab accident thinking. It happens. And the lab, the Wuhan |
| 2:05.4 | WIV, the Wuhan lab, was identified as early as 2017 of having security problems or not being |
| 2:13.9 | well taken care of. It had two level three labs, 17 level one labs, two level three labs, |
| 2:23.0 | and one level four lab. Josh, if I say this incorrectly, help me. The level four lab is the one |
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