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Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

"When Ideology is Identity with Lilliana Mason"

Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2018

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This week, Ana (@anamariecox) welcomed Lilliana Mason (@LilyMasonPhD), an assistant professor of Government and Politics at the University of Maryland and the author of Uncivil Agreement: How Politics Became Our Identity, to the show. They talked about Lilliana’s research into the power of partisan identity, and how it affects people’s daily behavior as well as the difference in manifestation between Democrats and Republicans. After probing the issue itself, they dove into the problems that it poses, as well as potential solutions. You can find Lilliana’s book here. Get in touch with us on Twitter at @crooked_friends, or email us at [email protected]. Thank you to our sponsors! Try a 7-day free trial at texture.com/friends. Go to stamps.com, click the radio microphone at the top and enter FRIENDS for up to $55 in free postage, a digital scale and a 4-week trial. Get free shipping on your first order when you go to everlane.com/friends.

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Anna-Marie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These.

0:06.0

The show, well, what I usually say here is that we talk about the differences between

0:11.6

us without letting them divide us.

0:15.4

And that is what the show tries to do.

0:20.6

But it's hard.

0:22.3

It's hard because apparently it's human nature to seek divisions.

0:28.5

Or it's the nature of some kinds of humans, I don't know.

0:34.2

To sort of explain why I'm having a little bit of a problem with the concept of being

0:39.4

able to talk about differences without divisions, I want to tell you a story.

0:45.5

It is 1954.

0:49.4

Social psychologist named Musafir Sharif and his colleagues decide they want to run an

0:55.1

experiment in Oklahoma City.

0:57.6

They gather up a group of boys.

0:59.9

They are selected to be the same religion, the same age.

1:05.8

They give them psychological tests and make sure they have the same basic emotional

1:10.1

makeup, the same educational background.

1:13.6

They want to get the most homogeneous group of boys that they can.

1:18.3

I imagine Oklahoma City wasn't too hard.

1:21.1

So they take this really, really same group of boys and they divide them into groups and

1:28.6

they take them camping.

1:31.1

They name one group, the Eagles and the other group, the rattlers.

1:34.0

And for a week, they do not tell them about each other.

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