"Cruelty is as American as Thanksgiving with Adam Serwer"

Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

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4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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This week, Ana (@anamariecox) sat down with The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer (@AdamSerwer) to talk about the Trump Administration’s inhumane policy of separating children from their parents detained at America’s southern border. Adam wrote a story in The Atlantic about how this policy is the realization of Trumpism, and laid out the argument he makes in the piece: that this policy is the natural byproduct of Trump’s political appeal, and builds off an American tradition of doing horrible things to black and brown children. He and Ana proceeded to examine the central importance of cruelty to this policy, and to much of what else Trump does. Ana covered Trump’s rally in Duluth on Wednesday for Rolling Stone, and shared some of her reflections on it at the end of the show. You can find Ana’s story from Duluth in full here. Ana referenced another piece of Adam’s in The Atlantic, “The Nationalist’s Delusion,” which you can find here. Adam cited this Atlantic piece from his colleague, and friend of the pod, Vann Newkirk II. Ana and Adam also mentioned a Vanity Fair piece about Stephen Miller. Get in touch with us on Twitter at @crooked_friends and email us at [email protected]. Thank you to our sponsors! Go to thegreatcourses.com/friends to try a free month of unlimited access. Visit thirdlove.com/friends now to find your perfect-fitting bra and get 15% off your first purchase. Check out sunbasket.com/friends today to learn more and get $35 off your first order! Head to havenly.com/friends for twenty-five percent off your design package.

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0:00.0	If you're listening to this podcast, I know you're curious because you want to learn new things.
0:05.9	I also know you're interested in having your assumptions challenged.
0:10.1	So I think you'll like the Great Courses Plus in general, and I think you're especially going to like
0:15.1	the course that I'm taking, which is behavioral economics, wind psychology, and economics collide.
0:20.7	It's kind of about how the assumptions we make about people are usually wrong.
0:24.5	The assumptions we make about ourselves are often wrong.
0:28.3	In general, we zoom ourselves and others to be somewhat rational.
0:32.5	And behavioral economics questions that it makes you question not just how good you are
0:37.3	predicting others behavior, but how good you are predicting your own behavior.
0:41.0	Like it turns out that we have an inability to delay gratification that's about on par with rats.
0:48.2	But you can take this course or you can take one of thousands on human behavior,
0:54.4	history, politics, science, even hobbies like photography and mindfulness meditation.
0:59.6	And right now as one of my listeners, you can enjoy all of those courses for free at the
1:04.8	GreatCourses Plus.com slash friends. You'll get a full month of unlimited access to enjoy
1:10.0	every single one of these lectures for free. You do have to go to the special URL,
1:14.2	the GreatCourses Plus.com slash friends. Again, that's a GreatCourses Plus.com slash friends.
1:20.8	Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These, where we talk about the differences
1:28.2	between us without letting them divide us. Usually, this is a Trump-adjusted episode. It's basically in
1:37.2	Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump episode. And the second segment, I'll be sharing the story I
1:43.5	wrote for Rolling Stone about my trip up north to the Trump rally. They're this week. And the first
1:49.2	segment I'm going to talk to Adam Surwer from the Atlantic about his piece that ties in the
1:55.1	family separation policy to Trumpism in general. So that's a lot of Trump. And you may have been
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