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What The People of Gaza Actually Think | Interview: Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib (RE-AIR)

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The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.43K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Originally aired on Oct. 16, 2024. Palestinian-American activist and resident senior fellow at The Atlantic Council Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib joins Adaam James Levin-Areddy to discuss growing up in the Gaza Strip, the challenge of polling public opinion in Gaza, the future of Palestinian self-governance, whether there is a meaningful contingent in support seeking peace with Israel. The Agenda: —The story of Gaza —Hamas vs. Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) —October 7 —Breaking down support for Hamas in Gaza —Palestinian sovereignty and UNRWA —Do Palestinians want peace? —The radicalism of the moderate voice Show Notes: —⁠⁠Ahmed’s piece for The Dispatch⁠⁠ —⁠⁠Adaam talks with Dr. Einat Wilf about UNRWA and the refugee industrial complex⁠⁠ —⁠⁠Adaam and Jonah talk on Oct. 7, 2023⁠⁠ The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and weekly livestreams—⁠⁠click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.0

Welcome to the dispatch podcast. Jamie's off today, and I'm Adam, James Livingerity.

0:35.8

Today, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nisoneiao is supposed to meet with President Trump at the White House

0:42.3

as the U.S. pushes for a ceasefire in Gaza.

0:46.2

This made me think that this is a good moment to revisit a conversation I had back in October with

0:51.0

Ahmed Fidel-Katib, resident fellow at the Atlantic Council, originally

0:54.7

from Gaza himself. I asked him what Gazans really think about Hamas, about Israel, about a two-state

1:01.2

solution, and about October 7th. Understanding the mood on the streets, even during a heartbreakingly

1:06.2

deadly war, is critical in order to understand what we can hope for on the other end.

1:12.0

The Netanyahu government and Trump administration are trying to imagine a post-Chamas future for Gaza.

1:16.7

But is that realistic?

1:18.7

Give a listen to my chat with Ahmed and see what you think.

1:42.6

Thank you. Ahmed, you wrote a fantastic piece for the dispatch title Hamas is monstrous. Most Guzans agree. And I think some of the most prominent work

1:47.0

that you've been doing in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been to vigorously

1:54.0

and committedly fight for the line of humanitarian concern for the Palestinians while also trying to

2:00.0

seek a real solution to the

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