What Spiritual Awakening Actually Looks Like — with Lisa Cairns
A New Way of Being
Simon Mundie
4.8 • 523 Ratings
🗓️ 16 June 2025
⏱️ 118 minutes
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Summary
A deep and honest conversation about what happens when your identity dissolves, and how awakening isn’t what most people think.
In this episode of A New Way of Being, Simon speaks with spiritual teacher Lisa Cairns about the raw and real experience of spiritual awakening.
Lisa shares how a spontaneous shift in Bali completely changed her perception of reality — dissolving her sense of self, shaking her identity, and opening her to a sense of vast, loving awareness. Far from being a blissed-out fairytale, her journey included disorientation, vulnerability, and deep questioning.
This conversation explores:
What spiritual awakening actually looks and feels like
Why awakening doesn’t make life easier — but can make it more honest
The illusions we live by and what happens when they fall away
How to navigate the loss of identity with self-awareness and care
Why freedom is always available — even in the mess
This is a challenging and inspiring listen that cuts through spiritual clichés and gets to the heart of what it means to wake up.
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| 0:00.0 | I would say that I sit in silence for like, dependent on how much I have to do, between four |
| 0:05.4 | and eight hours a day. |
| 0:06.8 | I eat well. |
| 0:07.8 | I don't eat too much sugar or caffeine. |
| 0:11.0 | I don't eat meat or dairy. |
| 0:12.8 | I don't drink alcohol. |
| 0:14.0 | I do body work every day. |
| 0:15.6 | I don't really watch TV or YouTube. |
| 0:18.1 | I switch my phone off and I have an e-ink device that I use when I don't |
| 0:23.2 | have to have my phone on. So it's like a small phone that's e-ink. When I eat, I generally listen to |
| 0:29.0 | music, but I try to eat and I like to do everything with my breathing. So when I'm eating, |
| 0:35.0 | I'm syncing it with my breath. So if people have an idea |
| 0:39.8 | that they are going to like do a bit of this stuff and then they're going to be able to go back |
| 0:46.3 | to drinking, partying, going out, doing lots of crazy things that we think are happiness in the |
| 0:52.8 | society, it's not true. Yeah, your body won't be |
| 0:56.0 | interested in that. And every time you do something, which is against health and mental sanity, |
| 1:05.5 | you get calmer and it becomes very obvious. We need a lot of silence and our society is like the opposite. |
| 1:16.8 | In this episode of a new way of being, I'm speaking to Lisa Cairns, who is a teacher, a speaker |
| 1:23.4 | and a retreat host who shares about consciousness and what happens when our usual sense of self |
| 1:30.5 | completely drops away for good and bad. Now Lisa has a profound and at times overwhelming |
| 1:37.9 | awakening experience while eating banana fritters in barley, that completely disorientated her. |
| 1:45.1 | Now, a heads up, this is one of my deeper conversations. |
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