Well, hello everyone and welcome back to making the argument.

I'm actually here in New York City before the communist takeover is finalized.

I decided it would be good to come up here before I required papers.

But we have our next guests on the whole series of what should the right want.

And I am very excited to be talking to to I hope I can call my good friends.

Constantine and Francis from Triggerometry. Thank you guys for being on. Oh, thanks for having us. It's a pleasure, man. Absolutely. Looking forward to it. We are incredibly unqualified, by the way, to appear on this podcast for two reasons. A, we're not American and B. I also don't think that we would say that we're on the right either.

So we are outsiders in every way telling you exactly how to live your A, we're not American and B, I also don't think that we would say that we're on the right either.

So we are outsiders in every way telling you exactly how to live your lives. Good. You love that over here in America. We love it. When the British come over and tell you what to do. We will love it when they come over and try and then we send them back. Well, no, I, the reason why I wanted to do this is, one, you guys have engaged in this debate quite a bit.

And even if you don't consider yourselves on the Well, no, the reason why I wanted to do this is, one, you guys have engaged in this debate quite a bit.

And even if you don't consider yourselves on the right, I would say that you certainly understand elements of right-wing ideology, kind of the full spectrum of that.

And the whole purpose of this discussion, and discussions I've had with Doug Wilson and James Lindsay and others is trying to get beyond

just what we're opposed to and actually providing some sort of coherent direction of where

we want to go because we can already see the right fracturing quite a bit right now.

It's starting to get pretty hostile.

And I would argue that it's getting hostile on the right in ways that we

could argue are necessary, but are also highly destructive because we still have, we still

have a threat out there. We still have people who want to defeat all of us. And the question

is, is can we come up with something that addresses all the various concerns of some of the

main groups within the right and get to some place that we can all agree is worth going to rather than just agreeing on what we want to destroy or what we want to defeat.

So I'm going to give you guys the three, I'm going to frame this up. I'm going to give you guys kind of these three broad categories.

And what I'd like you to do is kind of tell me maybe where you guys think you might fit.

Because again, this is not a fight just for what's going on in America.

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