You're going to see. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Hello friends Greg Kockel here the show is stand to Reason and I'm glad that you've joined me here today I hope I can give you a piece of my mind and many of you calling and there's a lot in the queue right now

You can give me a piece of yours. So that's the point of the show here. Making the case

that the Christian understanding of the world, the Christian view of reality is

an accurate one, it's a factual one. It's a true one. There's a

difficulty using the word true nowadays because it's misunderstood. That's why I

start out with factual and whatever the word else, the other word was that I use, but, you know, we, accurate and factual. That's what we mean by true. We're not just talking about our

fantasy now. It may turn out to be our fantasy, but that's not what we think and

that's not what we're advancing. We're willing to think about it and to see whether our views and our

claims are accurate or not, but we're not offering ice cream here, we're offering insulin, so to speak.

I had, last weekend when I was in this great

this great little town called Buffalo, Wyoming population 5,000, and worked with the great church there, summit church.

I had a couple of questions.

Actually, one came during the Q&A and the other one came afterwards in private conversation, but they were kin to each other and I want to mention something about them before I jump into the calls here. I won't take long. So if you're on hold, just just hang in there I'll be get to you shortly and

Thank you for your patience but one of the questions was what do I do do

What do I do with a person who just seems apathetic, who just don't seem to care.

They talk to them about the Lord and they say, well, that's all right, it doesn't matter.

You know, I'm not going to worry about it now I'm doing

fine I don't need that I'll find out when I die or some kind of dismissive attitude

and you know I was just thinking about it as I was saying that that's to some degree the attitude I had

Before I became a Christian for some years before that.

I was at Michigan State University.

My brother Mark was not.

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