What’s Up THIS WEEK?? 📬 Your Deliverability Rate Is Lying to You, Does Podcasting Advertising Work? Backstreet Boys? TV Recos? | Ep. 495
Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson
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4.9 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 21 April 2026
⏱️ 11 minutes
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Most marketers think a 98% deliverability rate means their emails are landing in the inbox. Spoiler: it does not. Jay Schwedelson breaks down one of the most misunderstood stats in email marketing, plus shares a surprisingly simple subject line tweak that's boosting open rates by nearly 20%, and why podcast ads might be the most underrated channel you're not using yet.
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Best Moments:
(00:30) Why your 98% deliverability rate is actually misleading you
(01:30) The promotions tab counts as the inbox, and most marketers don't know that
(03:45) Stat-only subject lines are quietly outperforming everything else right now
(02:03) Over half of Americans are monthly podcast listeners, and host-read ads are dominating
(05:15) Instagram now lets you edit comments, and Jay is not sure anyone asked for this
(07:00) WrestleMania tickets cost more than Backstreet Boys, and that math is not mathing
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Do This Not That, the podcast from marketers. |
| 0:05.0 | We share quick tips, things you can do right now, and then we add a little bit of chaos at the end of every episode. |
| 0:11.0 | We also keep it short, like this intro. Let's check it out. |
| 0:15.0 | We are back for what's up this week from the Do This Not That podcast. |
| 0:20.0 | This is our short episode or a breakdown. |
| 0:21.9 | What's going on in business and marketing and life? |
| 0:24.7 | So let's jump right into it. |
| 0:26.6 | Everybody is confused about email marketing and how many of your emails should be going |
| 0:33.2 | to the inbox versus the junk folder and spam folder. |
| 0:37.3 | Here's the truth. Here's the wild stat. |
| 0:39.8 | So some new data from validity came out. And it shows that on average, about 83.5% of all email, |
| 0:46.4 | business, consumer, nonprofit, whatever, 83.5% go to the inbox. And you're like, well, when I go in my tracking report, it shows me 98% deliverability. |
| 0:59.1 | And this is where people get confused. |
| 1:01.6 | Deliverability is to the mailbox level. |
| 1:04.9 | After the mailbox, the mail gets sorted. |
| 1:07.6 | Okay. |
| 1:08.1 | Some goes to the inbox. |
| 1:09.3 | Some goes to junk folder, spam folder, whatever. |
| 1:12.1 | So number one, there is email that you're sending out that will not go to the inbox, |
| 1:16.5 | and that's okay. You need to manage that expectation internally that some of your email is not |
| 1:23.0 | going to go to the inbox. Nobody's going to get 100% deliverability to the inbox. I don't care |
| 1:27.2 | who you are. |
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