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Americano

What’s the matter with Minnesota?

Americano

The Spectator

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.0762 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Freddy Gray speaks to investigative journalist and policy fellow at American Experiment Bill Glahn about the situation in Minneapolis. They discuss how Minnesota – a state once occupied by Scandinavian peace loving people became the heart of political eruptions; the multibillion dollar fraud of state social benefits which led to the immigration crackdown and the effect of the cripplingly cold weather in calming the chaos. 

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0:35.7

Hello and welcome back to the Americana Show. My name is Freddie Gray. I am the deputy editor of the

0:41.3

spectator and the US editor. And I'm pleased to tell you that this is the 10th year of the

0:47.7

Americano podcast. And I think it's fair to say it's been a fairly fascinating time in American politics, life and culture.

0:57.5

And that's what we talk about every episode on this podcast. So please keep listening and provide as

1:03.9

much feedback as you like. I'm delighted to be joined today by Bill Glawn, who is an investigative

1:08.6

journalist and a policy fellow at the American

1:12.4

Experiment Institute. We are going to be talking about Minnesota and Minneapolis because while

1:19.4

Donald Trump is causing all sorts of conictions and eruptions on the world stage, there is this

1:24.9

bubbling and ongoing story of protests, counter-protests and unrest

1:29.8

in Minneapolis in the state of Minnesota. Bill, I wanted to start by asking you, for Europeans and

1:39.0

Brits, who probably think of Minnesota as a state occupied by Scandinavian, peace-loving people. It's a bit baffling

1:47.8

that the state should be so convulsed with politics and kind of left liberal politics as well.

1:54.1

Can you explain a little bit about why Minnesota seems to be in the American news so much?

1:59.6

Yeah, well, I use the Churchillian phrase, produces more

2:02.4

news that could be consumed locally. Well, you are correct that the origins of the state, the people

2:09.8

other than the Aboriginal Native Americans who populated the state were, for the most part,

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