Is the Greenland drama a new Suez crisis?
Americano
The Spectator
4.0 • 762 Ratings
🗓️ 19 January 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Freddy Gray is joined by Jacob Heilbrunn, Editor of The National Interest, and David Whitehouse, science journalist and former BBC Science Editor, to discuss Donald Trump’s threat to annex Greenland and the potential rupture in transatlantic relations. They also discuss Greenland’s strategic importance for missile defence, the 'Golden Dome', Arctic shipping routes and space-based surveillance; and how Russia and China’s expanding presence in the Arctic, in space and in critical minerals is reshaping global security.
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| 0:35.7 | Hello and welcome back to the Americana Show. My name is Freddie Gray. I am the deputy editor of the |
| 0:41.3 | spectator and the US editor. And I'm pleased to tell you that this is the 10th year of the |
| 0:47.7 | Americano podcast. And I think it's fair to say it's been a fairly fascinating time in American politics, life and culture. |
| 0:57.6 | And that's what we talk about every episode on this podcast. So please keep listening and provide as |
| 1:03.9 | much feedback as you like. I am delighted to be joined today by Jacob Harbin, frequent guest on this show and a contributor to the |
| 1:12.5 | spectator. And another spectator, the award-winning journalist and broadcaster, Dr David |
| 1:18.6 | Whitehouse, who wrote a very interesting piece that we published last week about Greenland |
| 1:24.9 | and the future of warfare, really. |
| 1:29.9 | Jacob, I'll start with you because the Greenland issue has heated up, I think it's fair to say, |
| 1:36.4 | over the weekend. |
| 1:37.4 | Trump has upped the ante on Europe. |
| 1:40.3 | On Saturday he threatened or didn't threaten. |
| 1:43.0 | He said he would start imposing on the 1st of February |
| 1:45.7 | tariffs on several European nations, including the United Kingdom, of 10%, which would then go up to |
| 1:53.0 | 25% in June if the complete and full sale of Greenland or annexation by America of Greenland was not completed. |
| 2:04.8 | And then today we've seen this letter that he wrote to the Danish Prime Minister saying, |
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