What's Love Poetry Doing in the Bible? (Making Sense of Song of Songs), #587
Java with Juli - Making Sense of God and Sex
Authentic Intimacy®
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🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Lips that drip liquid myrrh, cheeks like beds of spices . . . what on earth is happening here? This week, we're making sense of the metaphors in Song of Songs. Find out how this bizarre (to us) love poetry shows us that God is wholeheartedly, enthusiastically, and unequivocally in favor of out-of-this-world sexual pleasure in marriage.
Guest: Dr. Sandra Glahn
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Follow-up Resources:
What If I Hate Sex? by Juli Slattery (blog)
How to Go from Demand and "Duty Sex" to True Sexual Intimacy by Juli Slattery (blog)
Pre-order the Lifeway CSB Women's Study Bible (with contributions by Dr. Glahn)
Passion Pursuit: What Kind of Love are You Making? with Juli Slattery & Linda Dillow (a 12-week study through the Song of Songs)
Follow Dr. Glahn @sandraglahnauthor
Follow Authentic Intimacy at @authenticintimacy
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| 0:00.0 | Hey friend, welcome to Java with Julie. I am so glad that you join me for this episode. And this podcast |
| 0:08.4 | is a production of Authentic Emissie, which is a ministry helping people make sense of God |
| 0:13.8 | and sexuality. Well, I feel like this conversation, we're going to be going right back to the very |
| 0:18.9 | beginning of when I started this ministry |
| 0:21.0 | 13 years ago. This ministry was really spurred on by some conversations that I had with |
| 0:28.4 | a mentor of mine, Linda Dillo, some of you are very familiar with her, who actually |
| 0:32.7 | co-founded this ministry. I was a clinical psychologist in the marriage and family space with about 16 years |
| 0:39.4 | of marriage under my belt, and I had already written a book about sex in marriage, but I had never |
| 0:45.3 | really studied the book of Song of Solomon. And to be honest, I didn't really appreciate this book. |
| 0:51.6 | I didn't get all the symbolism, like the leaping deer and gardens |
| 0:56.0 | and fruit. It just didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. So Linda gave me an assignment to read |
| 1:02.2 | Song of Solomon and to really ponder on what I might learn from the woman in this story, the young |
| 1:09.5 | bride. And as I was reading, I remember thinking that the bride in the Song of Solomon was way more inspiring and convicting than what we might consider the wonder woman of the Bible, which is the Proverbs 31 woman. |
| 1:24.1 | Yet nobody had ever sent to me as a wife like be like her she was passionate she was honest |
| 1:31.9 | uninhibited in her sexual relationship i remember thinking that if most husbands were to choose |
| 1:38.0 | they'd probably rather be married to the bride and song of solomon than even the proverbs 31 woman |
| 1:44.0 | because sexual passion and intimacy |
| 1:47.2 | is just important in marriage. And a lot of wives don't know how to enjoy that and tap into that. |
| 1:54.0 | The bride in the Song of Solomon really changed the way I began to see sex in my marriage. |
| 1:59.8 | So I invited an expert, Dr. Sandra Gwan, |
| 2:02.9 | to help us better understand this poetic book, some of the ancient language that it holds, |
| 2:09.5 | and also what it tells us about God's design for sex and marriage. Now, Dr. Glon, or Dr. G. |
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