What’s Hijacking Your Healing? Preston Smiles Reveals How to Turn Trauma into Abundance
Wellness + Wisdom Podcast
Josh Trent
4.8 • 913 Ratings
🗓️ 24 June 2025
⏱️ 91 minutes
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Summary
What if true freedom demands separation from old beliefs?
Josh Trent welcomes Preston Smiles, Abundance and Money Coach, to the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 752, to reveal how our need for external validation hijacks our true potential and abundance, what it really takes to break free from generational wounds, and why the commodification of spirituality will only be undone by uncompromising honesty and a relaxed nervous system.
In This Episode, Preston Smiles Uncovers:
[01:10] Why Most Self-Development Is “Blind Leading the Blind”
- Why healing doesn't have a hierarchy.
- How all fathers hold the hard things inside.
- Why nobody is better than anybody.
- What makes us chase the feeling of significance.
- How we're taught to seek validation outside of ourselves.
- Why most self-development is blind leading the blind.
Resources:
[09:35] Being Honest with Your Children
- Why honesty is a gift to our children.
- How Preston's children witnessed a conflict between him and his wife.
- Why he apologized to his wife in front of his children after they had a fight.
- How being a demonstration is what lands the most for people.
[13:00] How to Repair After Conflict
- Why God only hears 'yes.'
- How the body stores everything we've ever been through.
- What creates neurotags in the body.
- How not addressing our neurotags makes us harden.
- Why most of us didn't learn how to clear guilt, shame, and trauma from our body.
- The importance of having proactive practices to prevent disease.
[18:30] The Role of A Father
- Why most of Preston's childhood friends didn't fulfil their potential because their fathers weren't present.
- How his father encouraged him to be a leader.
- Why most people don't have a father that's loving and present.
Resources:
[23:35] How to Be Free
- Why Preston quit being a reverend twice in his life.
- Science of Mind by Ernest Holmes
- The importance of questioning our answers.
- What is behind our belief that money is hard to come by.
- How questioning our path can set us free from generational wounds and beliefs.
Resources:
[29:00] Why Elevation Requires Separation
- How repair provides a space to ask each other questions.
- How we become like the people we spend time with.
- Why his wife was the first person Preston ever made love with.
- What led him to go deep into esoterics and conspiracies.
[35:20] You Can Heal Yourself
- The difference between healthy and toxic fear.
- How Preston developed a skin disease and fell into shame when he was a teenager.
- Why he needed to process the abuse he went through as a child.
- How acknowledgment helped him heal.
- Why he did 31 ayahuasca ceremonies in a year.
- How people began to be part of Preston's healing.
Resources:
[40:25] The Next Level of Law of Attraction
- The missing link to the law of attraction.
- Why the work is constant remembering of what is actually here.
- How learning to love what is opens up the door for us.
- Why we need to choose but not want.
- What we can't stop thinking about, it's our calling.
- How Preston connects with God.
- Why hearing God's voice when he was 15 saved his life.
- How he met his wife through listening and trusting God.
Resources:
- The Secret by Rhonda Byrne
- 674 Daniele Kathryn Hage | Gender Equality vs. Gender Equity: How to Have a Lasting + Loving Relationship For Life
[49:20] Healing Porn Addiction
- What made Josh realize that porn addiction was his own choice.
- How Preston approaches his children's sexuality.
- Why pornography is a tool of control.
- How he finally chose to see sex as a sacred act.
[56:50] Is Demonic Energy Ever Good?
- How even demonic energy can serve us to awaken.
- Why the demonic energy is not the urge but the marketing machine that sold us the urge.
- How the bad things in our lives are our teachers on a soul level.
[01:01:35] The Wounded Ego
- Why it's not our fault when we fall into addiction.
- How social media glorifies toughness.
- Why Preston's team didn't stop working when he decided to let them go.
- How he used to feel better than everyone.
[01:08:05] How Much Money Do You Really Need to Be Happy?
- How Josh has worked through his relationship and money wounds to get where he is now.
- Why there is a point where money doesn't matter anymore.
- How Preston learned to appreciate his tiny apartment back in the day.
- Why get more if we can't love what we have now.
- How some rich people identify with the status of money and get controlled by it.
- Why Preston doesn't keep the things that make him attach to his ego.
[01:14:45] Cheaters Don't Last
- How people have used Preston to climb the career ladder.
- Why his friend stole his workshop.
- How people who cheat other people don't last long in the game.
Resources:
[01:22:05] Spiritual Commodification
- Why the antidote to the commodification of spirituality is honesty.
- The importance of crediting those we've learned from.
- Why scarcity tells us there's not enough for everyone to share.
- How abundance comes from a relaxed nervous system.
- Why most people have a very small window of tolerance.
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All Resources From This Episode
- Preston Smiles
- 092 Now or Never: Alexi Panos & Preston Smiles
- Dead Poets Society (1989)
- Spiritual Millionaire by Preston Smiles
- You Can Heal Your Life by Louise Hay
- The Secret by Rhonda Byrne
- 674 Daniele Kathryn Hage | Gender Equality vs. Gender Equity: How to Have a Lasting + Loving Relationship For Life
- Tai Lopez
- Grant Cardone
Power Quotes From Preston Smiles
"Most of the self-development space is the blind leading the blind. They're not embodied. And if who we're mimicking and following is not embodied, then we're going to stay stuck in a vicious cycle." — Preston Smiles
"The body is a living library that stores everything we've ever been through. Over time, if we do not address the stored paid, the body starts to become dense and the fluidity of the system hardens. If we don't have healthy, intentional, proactive practices, the body will turn on itself and begin to create cancer cells because it is not flowing like it should be." — Preston Smiles
"Get your questions answered and your answers questioned. If you accept the answer, that is what you will experience. But if you question the answer, what do you get? You get freedom." — Preston Smiles
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| 0:00.0 | Most of the self-development space is the blind leading, the blind. They're not embodied. |
| 0:05.1 | We are in the age of demonstration. The only thing that is going to really land for people is being the walking, talking, living, breathing demonstration of the stuff we figured out through information and transformation. |
| 0:17.7 | What is the commodification of spirituality doing to our psyche and to our souls? |
| 0:22.6 | Preston Smiles is an abundance and money coach and author of spiritual millionaire. |
| 0:27.6 | The body is a living library that stores everything we've ever been through. |
| 0:31.6 | Most of us did not get a demonstration of how to clear trauma, shame, guilt out of our body. |
| 0:38.6 | Now, over time, if I do not address that, then the body starts to become dense. |
| 0:44.4 | The fluidity of the system is hardened. |
| 0:47.2 | If we don't have healthy, intentional, proactive practices, the body will turn on itself and begin to create cancer cells and things of |
| 0:58.1 | that nature because it is not flowing like it should be. How does abundance live in your body and |
| 1:03.8 | how do you teach abundance to people that are struggling around it? Why is there no hierarchy in healing? And what is that really? it. |
| 1:13.8 | Why is there no hierarchy in healing? |
| 1:15.4 | And what does that really mean to you? |
| 1:22.6 | Because, in my opinion, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. |
| 1:27.3 | And all of us have these dates with destiny. And I was doing a, leading a retreat ceremony, if you may, a couple days ago. |
| 1:35.3 | And we were circled up talking about our fathers. |
| 1:39.3 | And I shared that the way that I look at our lineage and our fathers and their fathers and their |
| 1:45.8 | fathers is each father takes the baton and takes the brunt of something for the next one. |
| 1:53.0 | And so I could look at my dad and say, oh, you did drugs, you cheated, you did this, you |
| 1:57.4 | suffered, you went down these paths, you were a bad dad. Or I could say, thank you. |
| 2:04.8 | Thank you for holding the ugly stuff. I still had to hold some ugly stuff, but not that ugly. |
| 2:11.4 | You held the drug abuse. And then you passed me, the baton. You took it, you took it further than your |
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