not all feelings that are positive for us feel good.

And one of the biggest myths is that optimism always feels good.

It's something that we have to redefine and really allow it in its whole and entirety to meet us where we are actually at.

Hi, hello. Welcome to Mary's Cup of Tea, the self-love podcast for women. Though all self-lovers

are welcome here. I'm Mary. I write and speak about self-love and I'm best known for my book,

The Gift of Self-Love, and I also host retreats for women. And this is the podcast that will

inspire you to love yourself.

Our guest today is Dr. Deepika Chopra, widely known as the optimism doctor.

And we're talking about exactly that.

Optimism.

What does it mean to stay optimistic when things are hard, not just for you maybe personally,

but also uncertain for all of us collectively. And the power of

real optimism, which is also the title of Dr. Deepakha's book, it cannot be overstated. Optimism is different

from positivity. You'll learn how and why in this conversation. But one of my biggest takeaways

from this is how it's less

about feeling good and more about building resilience, curiosity, and emotional flexibility.

It cannot be overstated. You'll learn in this conversation what real optimism is and how it differs

from positivity. We also explore themes of nostalgia, resilience,

hope, curiosity, and at the bottom of it, emotional flexibility. And this conversation is rooted in

reality. I promise there is no toxic positivity or empty platitudes. It's also oddly encouraging. You'll hear and feel more of Dr.

Deepika's compassionate approach. And most importantly, you'll walk away with tactical, tangible tools

that you can apply to your mental health today. Whether you're struggling with anxiety, we also

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