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What Next | The GOP Can't Quit "Stop the Steal"

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.6 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

As Donald Trump has demonstrated, losing an election is no reason to admit you lost an election. In fact, in North Carolina, the Republican challenger, who lost a race for the state’s Supreme Court, is testing a bold new strategy of disqualifying ballots until he gets the result he wants. And if he succeeds, it could start a trend. Guest: Mark Joseph Stern, Slate senior writer covering courts and the law.  Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Jesse Michael Allison. Elizabeth Jane Anderson.

0:40.3

A few weeks ago, a small group of protesters gathered in front of North Carolina's Supreme Court.

0:46.3

They were there to read a list of names.

0:49.3

They started at 6 in the morning.

0:52.3

They estimated they would be reading for 17 hours.

0:56.5

I want to stress, they have been out here all day long, braving the cult.

1:00.3

They're going to be out here until midnight.

1:01.7

They told me reading these 60,000 names because they tell me the names and the votes deserve to be heard.

1:09.6

These people were reading the names of voters. people who voted for a Democrat named Allison Riggs to serve on the state Supreme Court back in November.

1:18.9

Her opponent, a guy named Jefferson Griffin, is trying to throw these votes out.

1:25.9

Her opponent argues that their votes were illegitimate and unlawful and that months after the

1:31.2

election, they need to be tossed out, just enough so that he can be declared the true

1:37.5

victor and her triumph can be erased.

1:40.4

60,000 people is a lot of people.

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