What Next - Should I Be Freaking Out About Hantavirus?
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🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
The world is watching with a wary eye, as passengers leave the hantavirus-infected MV Hondius cruise ship and head to medical facilities or home. Is this the start of the next pandemic—or is our collective response still informed by the last one?
Guest: Katherine J. Wu is a staff writer covering science at The Atlantic.
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| 0:00.0 | Let me just state this up front. I am not really a cruise person. |
| 0:12.1 | The idea of sealing myself inside a boat with a bunch of strangers has always seemed fraud. |
| 0:17.7 | Maybe it's because I watched too many reruns of Gilligan's Island growing up. In the last |
| 0:22.7 | few years, norovirus outbreaks have not made me feel any less entitled to my opinion. So over the last |
| 0:28.7 | couple of weeks, when I heard about a wildlife cruise, where a form of hauntavirus seemed to be |
| 0:34.6 | spreading, I thought, oh no, but also, of course. Now that the cruise is |
| 0:42.0 | over, I called up Catherine Wu from over the Atlantic to ask, how worried should all of us be |
| 0:48.8 | about this outbreak? It was the first weekend of May when the first confirmed case of hauntavirus was reported from the ship. |
| 1:01.2 | And I think that is about the time the pastures on the ship found out as well, at least most of them. |
| 1:07.4 | Did you immediately think, uh-oh, this is going to be a problem? |
| 1:12.1 | Not really. |
| 1:14.0 | My first thought was, wow, that really sucks. |
| 1:17.1 | The person on board is probably not going to have a good time. |
| 1:20.5 | We do worry about the people who actually get infected because some versions of |
| 1:25.0 | Hunter virus can have up to roughly 50% fatality rate, and that is |
| 1:28.7 | absolutely no joke. But certainly my first thought was not, oh, giant outbreak, the world is in |
| 1:33.8 | trouble. You can hear how the facts have a way of fighting each other, right? Like the mortality |
| 1:39.2 | rate is high. In fact, three out of the 150 passengers on this cruise have died. |
| 1:46.0 | And when this boat, the M.V. Hondias, pulled up to its final destination, the head of the |
| 1:51.1 | World Health Organization was there to personally oversee what happened next. He told the press, |
| 1:56.6 | there was no need to panic. This was not another COVID. But the local government did not want passengers sticking around. They put them in hazmat suits and hustled them onto waiting planes. |
| 2:09.3 | Catherine says, there was a good reason for the rush. There's no cure for Honda virus. There's no specific treatment. We just try and keep them from getting worse, |
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