Last week, the fight over what exactly to do about vaping came to the White House.

And then it was broadcast on C-SPAN.

This meeting, it was held in a cabinet room and it was packed.

Senator Mitt Romney was there.

The president of the campaign for tobacco-free kids was sitting directly across from the president, jammed in between the CEO of Jewel and the head of a vaping industry association.

These people, they do not agree.

The advocates say vaping is just another way to get kids hooked on nicotine.

They're cigarettes without the smoke.

The industry representatives, for them, vaping is a way to give adults who want to quit,

the experience of smoking with less risk. It got awkward.

So what do you say it's a lesser problem than smoking cigarettes? I mean, they say that,

you know, the e-cigarettes you stop smoking and it's better. You don't think so, Sally.

No, sir. Thank you, Mr. President. No, nicotine addiction is not good. It's bad for the children's brains.

It affects them with their attention. When the campaign for tobacco-free kids guy tries to jump in here, say, vaping is dangerous because it's attracting a new generation of smokers.

An industry rep interrupts him, says, kids who vape, they're not exactly angels.

These are kids that have at-risk behaviors, and that is why, yes, we have to be...

They don't have that.

Then that guy gets shouted down.

Eventually, Mitt Romney weighs in.

He says, even Mormons are vaping now.

You tell us a Mormon state, half the kids at high school are vaping now. You've done some Mormon state.

Half the kids in high school are vaping.

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