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This Week In Impeachment: “Presidents Are Not Kings”

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4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2019

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

For months, White House lawyers have argued that many of the president’s aides can sidestep congressional subpoenas because of their proximity to Trump. This week, a judge rejected that claim, setting the stage for another installment in the House of Representatives’s impeachment inquiry. 

Guest: Jeremy Stahl, Slate senior editor

Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, Danielle Hewitt, and Mara Silvers.

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0:00.0

Previously, an impeachment.

0:07.4

So how many people testified this week? Can you even remember, Jim?

0:11.1

It was somewhere between four and 700. I think it was nine, though.

0:16.7

Nine witnesses, three days, and each and every one of these people, they were saying the same thing.

0:23.4

To really understand this impeachment story, you've got to talk to my boss.

0:27.6

Including Sondland, right?

0:28.8

I mean, the one thing, the gift that Sondland did give was you should probably talk to Pompeo.

0:35.3

Which is why this week, everyone was watching a United States District Court in Washington, D.C.

0:45.0

Welcome back. It is another week in impeachment. And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking,

0:51.2

you told me last week was the last week of this. And it was, but then you know how this goes. Like you make plans and then yada, yada, yada. A court is ruling something. And anyway, here we are. Plus, Jeremy Stahl is in town. He is our senior legal editor here at Slate. Jeremy Stahl.

1:11.6

Hello.

1:12.7

Hi, Mary.

1:13.7

Welcome to New York.

1:14.8

Thank you so much.

1:29.5

So when we left off on Friday, the big question was, would there be any way to get these firsthand witnesses to whatever happened with Ukraine to get them to testify in front of Congress.

1:34.3

Because each of the witnesses last week really seemed to me, and you can disagree with me here if you disagree, but it seemed to me like each of those witnesses was taking their little

1:39.8

piece of knowledge and laying it at the feet of their boss, essentially, and saying, I was doing

1:46.7

this work, but who you really need to talk to is, you know, Mick Mulvaney, Mike Pompeo,

1:53.7

any of these people who work inside the White House and are having regular meetings with the

1:57.7

president.

1:58.3

Last week, there was a ton of buck passing from the Republican committee members in that

2:05.4

impeachment inquiry room challenges that it was all hearsay evidence, that it was all hearsay

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