Welcome to Nobody Told Me.

I'm Jan Black.

And I'm Laura Owens.

We are a mother-daughter duo, and today we're a mother-daughter trio as we're joined on this episode

by my other daughter Sarah Owens, my older daughter, who is also Laura's sister. And we wanted to

spend some time talking about mothers and daughters and the things moms learn from daughters and

the things daughters learn from moms. We are so excited to have you here, Sarah. So excited to be here.

So I want to start off the conversation by asking both of you, what is the most important thing

that your mom taught you? I think it's twofold and they're two very, very different directions.

The first one is basically just being a good person and respecting others and trying to

have empathy, being able to truly put yourself in someone else's shoes and do what you can to help

them. And then the other one, which is on the other side of the spectrum, is more around finding the

fun in every situation. So making things, whether it's learning, whether it is doing chores, whatever

it might be, grocery shopping, putting fun in that and trying to find joy in the small things.

And I'm going to add to that because we're talking about the same mother here.

I think you did such a great job with that mom growing up and making every single thing we ever did so much fun.

And I have so many great memories of us just hanging

around the kitchen and you could make cleaning dishes a really fun activity. And as I've gotten

older and had to do these chores myself, I still have these really great memories of that.

And it makes the chores not seem like they're so difficult and like they're a time waste.

I just miss having you

there for them. I don't miss doing dishes, which, but no, but you know what? That's very interesting

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