we get stuck within certain limits of what our imagination or expectations can be, you know,

how would this look, how would this idea look if I did push it to extremes?

This is Art Juice.

This is Art Juice, honest, generous and humorous conversations that will feed your

creative soul and get you thinking with me Alice Sheridan and me Louise Fletcher. This is episode 172 and we are going to be back to basics today.

Prompted by a discussion that was happening, I thought let's talk about what makes a good

drawing this is going to be really juicy because this is a very broad subject.

So we're just going to riff, see where it takes us,

see where our feelings on drawings are.

But first of all, how has your week been?

It's been quite a good week busy lots of work on my course when I'm teaching it's it's pretty much that's what I'm doing am I either recording demos or I'm answering questions on doing live calls. I did have one out of the ordinary exciting thing happen and it's exciting and unsettling.

And I'm just going to share it with everybody because I don't know where it's going but I've had this idea for a long time that it would be nice to live somewhere that also could serve as an art retreat, not on a regular basis but from time to time. And that means having a house

that's got views and that's very scenic and also that has a big workspace for people to come in because my

workspace where I am now is not big enough to have enough people in. So a property

came up for sale two minutes from my house that is currently a kennels and so it has a lot of outbuildings already and a commercial business license.

So I went to see it and I went to see it on my own at first. It's beautiful. The house is beautiful. The house doesn't need any work, the property, however,

imagine the kennels.

It's a bunch of ramshackle buildings

that wouldn't do, and that would need to be knocked down

and rebuilt.

So then I took my neighbor who's the builder

to have a look and asked him to kind of give me all the bad,

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